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    Quote Originally Posted by Treach View Post
    In that theory only the people using turbo controllers would be the ones pressing enter 500 times, if they already use a turbo controller they probably don't have the self righteous morals some of these people have and will just go download a free craft bot.

    The bots aren't going to be phased by this stupid change, you'd be better off policing the crafters yourself.

    I'm not saying bots are okay to use, it's clearly against the tos, but this change is stupid and it's sad they didn't think it through enough to realize they are only going to annoy the legit players more as the botters will just laugh and continue to get free stuffs with no time spent while they have to press another button every x amount of crafts.

    This is not the way to stop botting.
    but it is a way to stop a massive form of cheating thats easily available to anyone

    turbo controls are illegal in the way 99% of the people use them(taping buttons, not being at computer etc etc) and this is gonna catch them

    itl also catch the "dumb bots" the ones who are so simple it cant do anything more then simple functions(like hitting enter)


    it wont catch the complex ones, but those are few and far between anyway in comparison

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    oh yeah, 10 synths is moreso about 100-150 clicks or so tops(each synth takes 4 clicks just to get the recipe started and minimum 6 clicks per synth, probly closer to 8-10 though)

    i think we may see it as low as 10 synths, but id see it more reasonable around the 30 mark or so, which would be closer to the 400-500 mark which isnt as bad


    yes hasty hands crafters will see this more often, but you know what, they are already going fast, and they definately will see it the moment it happens so its not like they cant get rigfht back down and do it again

    itl for sure annoy the turbo crafters and botters, while the rest of us who are legit will notice it and compensate immediately as if nothing happened at all(we are already patient crafters to have gone this far for the most part, whats a few more seconds now and then)
    I'd be ok with closer to 30 since that's almost near to an hours worth of synthing without hasty hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treach View Post
    1000 synths is like what...18-20 hours of pressing enter straight? I think we can assume it's not going to be that high, and if they were SOMEWHAT smart they'd make it a random number between two values so you can't properly time it with a turbo controller.
    18-20 hours easily, a standard spammer averages 1 per minute, sometimes slightly less, so you end up between 50-60 a minute depending on your success rate with individual standards

    and i wasnt talking every 1000 synths, i was talking 1000 keystrokes(which equats to too many synths in itself still, itd take at least 80-100 synths) which is still quite a while, your looking at well over an hour of possible botting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    I'd be ok with closer to 30 since that's almost near to an hours worth of synthing without hasty hand.
    half an hour actualy.....which is still a good chunk of time

    an hour would be if you were going for hqs and bolding alot(which is another story)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treach View Post
    1000 synths is like what...18-20 hours of pressing enter straight? I think we can assume it's not going to be that high, and if they were SOMEWHAT smart they'd make it a random number between two values so you can't properly time it with a turbo controller.
    No, sadly. You can easily get upwards of 1000 enter presses in less than 2 hours.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    half an hour actualy.....which is still a good chunk of time

    an hour would be if you were going for hqs and bolding alot(which is another story)
    Or you just really like using the abilities instead of just spamming standard :P
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    There are bots that will do your leves for you, thats 3-5 synths, stopping changing tool, starting again and repeating to complete 8 different leves. You think in any way, standing every 10-20-40-100 will do anything?
    I dont think it will be standing, but, What does it really matter to any of you, there are RMT that are a problem. but these crafters do fish for shards. You shouldnt ever find a RMT with all crafts 50. So who you are complaining about are the crafters that make your high lvl gear and weapons and answer your shouts to have melds done.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    Or you just really like using the abilities instead of just spamming standard :P
    that falls in lines with bold spamming instead too cuz your being really careful and trying not to fail. yeah i guess people trying to level on recipes much higher then them would fall under this catagory too

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    Quote Originally Posted by Treach View Post
    Ok so I'm going to use my usb controller and 50 extensions so I can walk into the kitchen and make food while pressing X. BAN WORTHY?

    You guys are getting a little ridiculous with all this "AMG UR A TOS BREAKER".
    1st off if you need to go make food log out, is that an issue? 2nd. are you admitting to useing a turbo controller while you go and make food? Seriously all players need to do is to log out or stop whatever it is they are doing and go eat or what not. You really are not gonna lose that much time.
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    So many free crafting bots, not so many free turbo controllers.

    Dumb bots that press enter are no different then turbo controllers....and yes there are quite a few free craft bots that you can just download for free.

    Were you hit with a turbo controller as a child? All you are doing is hating on turbo controllers and not even trying to think of a better way to stop botting, just jumping on a bandwagon, pitchfork and torch in hand. You don't even realize bots are the bigger problem as they can be programed to so much more and bypass stupid fixes like this.
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