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  1. #1
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    what i cant just push buttans ?

    pushing buttans is aginst TOS OMG
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  2. #2
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vassteel View Post
    what i cant just push buttans ?

    pushing buttans is aginst TOS OMG
    Hey, I didn't say it. And actually I think what they were talking about was programming a controller to auto activate the button over and over so actually no pushing by the player at all in that case.

    Also, like you, I'm of the mind this really isn't going to do anything to people that run bot programs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    Hey, I didn't say it. And actually I think what they were talking about was programming a controller to auto activate the button over and over so actually no pushing by the player at all in that case.

    Also, like you, I'm of the mind this really isn't going to do anything to people that run bot programs.

    it really isnt. its going to do absolutley nothing but effect the bottom like slightly. by making the process longer. but not by much.
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    after a fairly short google search some bot have a very extensive feature list

    take this one for example copypasta'd from their page

    Memory Based - No Pixel Setup.
    Ability to harvest/gather all types of nodes
    Adjust your hotkeys depending on coneection
    Set spells where ever you want on your hotbar.
    Sse your spells how ever you want to use them.
    Run a group of bots fighting and healing together!
    Use potions,skills and spells while fleeing.
    Ability to rest at a certain HP or MP or both
    Ability to rest and wait for your pet to heal.
    Use abilities when you get to a certain health.
    Use abilities when you get to a certain Mana.
    Heal your pet as you fight.
    Ability to set close, ranged, or mix combat.
    Kill counter
    View your stats and mob stats at a glance
    Swap weapons during a figh.
    Set up heal bots to follow you around and heal.
    Detects whether a mob is invulnerable.
    Skip mobs that are not attackable.
    Video help for setting up the bot and running.
    UNDETECTED with anti-detection measures
    Stationary or moving patrols/paths
    Fight only the mobs you want to fight.
    Smooth, Natural looking Navigation.
    Does simple and complex Chain Moves.
    Ability to use partial or exact mob names to fight.
    Bugtracker to submit bugs and add feature request.
    Detects is a player is following you around.
    Bot detects other players around youand avoids.
    You don't need to know how to program.
    Choose what percent to heal at for each heal.
    Buffs (Combat and Regular)!
    Can Use MP and HP Potions!
    Loots! And when bag is full, it will not stop the bot.
    Bot will avoid Kill-Stealing
    After Fight mode to heal up and rebuff as necessary
    Pet support! Resummon, heal, and assist
    Pptional Bot-Monitor window.
    Character Settings are saved in profiles.
    Create simple or complex paths.
    Several attack modes including.
    Variety of after-death options.
    Quickly create paths with the Path-Recording.
    Use paths with any profile.
    Share paths and profiles with friends.
    Sshare your Ability/Buff/Heal setup with friends.
    Community already with many pre-made paths.
    Loop your path as many times as you wish.
    Data is updated very quickly after patches
    Detects if you are stuck, and will signal an alarm
    Detect multiple mobs and react to them accordingly
    Avoid mobs and harvest items that are too high.



    i really dont think a simple interruption in crafting is going to stop any of the bots
    some of them are so complex i even think it would be difficult for a GM to assess.

    square has no built in monitor for the .exe to throw up flags when the game memory is gooked or modified


    square game security is in fact terribad


    theres no cure
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    This is dumb. I spent a day or so when I have nothing else to do and gather as much materials as I can..(Usually all same one) then I go and craft them all out when I get the chance. Why should I have to deal with more annoyance...crafting already sucks as it is. -_- and like someone already pointed out..there probably are/will be bots that will just start crafting again.
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    This is stupid, there must be a better way to deal with bots. If they are going to put us up against achievements that require you to synth 3000 times then they need to set the limit somewhere around 100 at a minimum... if they really do this at all. They really need to get rid of bots, not just make it annoying for the rest of us.

    When I'm grinding I just put up a movie and use a controller in the background, I'm not clear why I need to be involved/looking when I'm doing 300 r10 synths at r45-50. I'm almost 100% certain this will just piss off active players and do absolutely nothing to bots. Maybe they should focus on the bots/rmt camped out at Cedarwood (Mysidia) spamming some leve where they can gather karakul fleece.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CainaMalebolge View Post
    This is stupid, there must be a better way to deal with bots. If they are going to put us up against achievements that require you to synth 3000 times then they need to set the limit somewhere around 100 at a minimum... if they really do this at all. They really need to get rid of bots, not just make it annoying for the rest of us.

    When I'm grinding I just put up a movie and use a controller in the background, I'm not clear why I need to be involved/looking when I'm doing 300 r10 synths at r45-50. I'm almost 100% certain this will just piss off active players and do absolutely nothing to bots. Maybe they should focus on the bots/rmt camped out at Cedarwood (Mysidia) spamming some leve where they can gather karakul fleece.
    No kidding some of these rules and arguments in here are so dumb. I am fine with the standing up after so many synths definitely not debating that but the idea that it's against the TOS to not look at your monitor is flat out dumb let alone open for so many errors. I have two monitors when I am crafting something that doesn't require anything but spamming standard I usually watch something while legitimately pushing buttons not botting or turbo controller so why should someone be punished for this.Heck more than half of the players who play this do this.

    What if you are playing pushing the button and someone comes and talks to you irl and you look away for a few while you talk while pushing the button still and a GM comes and you don't answer is that grounds for a banning I sure hope not.
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    Last edited by Eight; 03-16-2012 at 11:58 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eight View Post
    What if you are playing pushing the button and someone comes and talks to you irl and you look away for a few while you talk while pushing the button still and a GM comes and you don't answer is that grounds for a banning I sure hope not.
    it isnt gonna be a ban if you dont respond right away

    but lets say your ignoring the screen for 30 minutes while hes attempting to contact you, all the while your crafting away....theres a line to be drawn, looking away for a minute or 2 here and there is one thing, but some people are arguing that they should be allowed to not look for hours at a time and run programs and use controls to play the game for them and that its ok because they want to do it

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    it isnt gonna be a ban if you dont respond right away

    but lets say your ignoring the screen for 30 minutes while hes attempting to contact you, all the while your crafting away....theres a line to be drawn, looking away for a minute or 2 here and there is one thing, but some people are arguing that they should be allowed to not look for hours at a time and run programs and use controls to play the game for them and that its ok because they want to do it
    I understand exactly what people are getting at and in terms of not paying any attention for hours sure I agree.I also agree that running programs are illegal I never disagreed with that. I mean personally when I am watching something and legitimately playing I look at the screen from time to time but I mean I don't always read chat and what not I just look make sure I am not standing and everything is still going and I know alot of people do this and I just don't think it would be fair to be punished for this. Guess I'll have to pay more attention in the future I guess to make sure nothing like this happens lol it is just so hard to sit and stare at the same thing over and over while crafting it is so boring.
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    Is it one of those thread where people over-reacted on something they haven't experienced yet, and it ends up it's not so bad after trying it out ?

    We shall know the answer soon.
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