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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    I guess the real question is how many people guilty of cheating the system are turbo controller users and how many are bot users that will simply just get a new bot that accounts for the change. If the turbo users are the majority, sure that's great. But if not, it would seem to be a pretty annoying "feature" for so little benefit that in our eyes will look like nothing has changed at all.

    EDIT: But yes, you are right. I'm tired of crafting being worthless. At least they are trying to do something to help the situation.
    a majority of the people i know who do it have some sort of button pressing program or turbo control, and are super defensive about using them, i mean seriously go look at the turbo control threads and see how many people cried out about how they were so ok to use and its not fair we were singling them out

    there have been a few new ones ive come across recently too, theres a certain miner on our sevrer running a program that lets him mine in 1 spot continuously(ive undone my filters to watch him, he hits a node 8 times, then takes his tool out and repeats it over and over, always at same node) but those are few and far between in comparison

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    a majority of the people i know who do it have some sort of button pressing program or turbo control, and are super defensive about using them, i mean seriously go look at the turbo control threads and see how many people cried out about how they were so ok to use and its not fair we were singling them out

    there have been a few new ones ive come across recently too, theres a certain miner on our sevrer running a program that lets him mine in 1 spot continuously(ive undone my filters to watch him, he hits a node 8 times, then takes his tool out and repeats it over and over, always at same node) but those are few and far between in comparison
    Well crap, that sounds like an outright hack. If they are that good at programming, I wonder why they are wasting time writing programs to collect worthless raw materials in XIV. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    Well crap, that sounds like an outright hack. If they are that good at programming, I wonder why they are wasting time writing programs to collect worthless raw materials in XIV. LOL
    yeah, i reported it of course

    interesting fact though, i have seen another bot that runs gathering out anywhere too, and it has a bad habit of glitching(character will continuously teleport over and over as he takes out his axe/hatchet) until he starts mining/logging a node, and then, he is at least 20-30 yards away by the time he starts to actualy mine/log it.

    more interesting, its the same shell, different people, every time i see this happen, some may call it some sort of lag, but there is no coincidence its the same shell, and only people in that shell every time i see it, and that im not the only one who has witnessed it coming only from them

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    Quote Originally Posted by alienbaby View Post
    Is this cheating if you are not doing it by hand?

    Maybe we live in a video game and inventions are just users using BOTs on us?
    I'd say it is if you are creating that garment for someone who specifically states in the business contract that all articles of clothing produced are to be hand-stitched and any use of third party equipment is strictly prohibited.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    Well crap, that sounds like an outright hack. If they are that good at programming, I wonder why they are wasting time writing programs to collect worthless raw materials in XIV. LOL
    um.. doing the leve for gathering where you have to find the superior item, you can 100% tell where it is and you can keep gathering from that node by putting your tool away and re-gathering, what they are doing is trying to get sweat of brow to proc. HA. lack of understanding on how the game works is funny

    PS there is no way to "hack" the game to give you more nodes or drops or gear or free lvls., there are only memory edits to move you along. placing you in areas before the 14 servers do, then they update.
    but then you get stuck in a wall and have to call a gm to get you out
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheVedis View Post
    yeah, i reported it of course

    interesting fact though, i have seen another bot that runs gathering out anywhere too, and it has a bad habit of glitching(character will continuously teleport over and over as he takes out his axe/hatchet) until he starts mining/logging a node, and then, he is at least 20-30 yards away by the time he starts to actualy mine/log it.

    more interesting, its the same shell, different people, every time i see this happen, some may call it some sort of lag, but there is no coincidence its the same shell, and only people in that shell every time i see it, and that im not the only one who has witnessed it coming only from them
    I've actually seen the far away harvesting before in Horizon. There were some people late night harvesting trees, as was I, but they were able to harvest from like 30 yalms away. It really seemed suspicious, but I chalked it up to server response time or something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by alienbaby View Post
    um.. doing the leve for gathering where you have to find the superior item, you can 100% tell where it is and you can keep gathering from that node by putting your tool away and re-gathering, what they are doing is trying to get sweat of brow to proc. HA. lack of understanding on how the game works is funny
    nope this wasnt that, i was actualy watching him, i was seeing him gather 8 seperate items in a row and then put his axe away and pull it back out
    that IS NOT a leve or any type of misunderstanding, thats a straight out hack

    its along the same lines as the fish hack that lets you fish anywhere in game wether or not there is water

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    I've actually seen the far away harvesting before in Horizon. There were some people late night harvesting trees, as was I, but they were able to harvest from like 30 yalms away. It really seemed suspicious, but I chalked it up to server response time or something.
    when you see it, take a look at their shell, i dont wanna name names(partly cuz its against forum rules) but youll start to notice a pattern on who does it, and how its always them and their shell doing it and no one else

    at first it just looks like a lag bug perhaps, but then it starts to get suspicious and just cant be coincidence after youve seen enough of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by alienbaby View Post
    um.. doing the leve for gathering where you have to find the superior item, you can 100% tell where it is and you can keep gathering from that node by putting your tool away and re-gathering, what they are doing is trying to get sweat of brow to proc. HA. lack of understanding on how the game works is funny
    No need to get aggressive. I know what you're talking about now that you've explained it that way and I've done that myself to take advantage of guardian aspect.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn View Post
    No need to get aggressive. I know what you're talking about now that you've explained it that way and I've done that myself to take advantage of guardian aspect.
    funny is...its a waste of time to do that lol, in the time you wasted trying to get sweat to proc, you coulda gathered more times for more exp then you waited to get in that single hit(and you woulda had more materials)
    and you probly wasted enough time to lose some of your exp bonus for quick completion

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