Patch notes are up.

[Delsus]

I was calling Sav out, but it worked for both of you lol. Probably for many others too actually now that I stop and think.

Yes, "Sap" could have been cut on the editing floor. It might show up, it might never appear at all. You just never know. Having never been actively in the game though, I don't think you can call the skill "removed."

I'll still get you tonight Holy...

[northernsky]

I was calling Sav out, but it worked for both of you lol. Probably for many others too actually now that I stop and think.

Yes, "Sap" could have been cut on the editing floor. It might show up, it might never appear at all. You just never know. Having never been actively in the game though, I don't think you can call the skill "removed."

Ohh a semantic war

It still looks realistic that they decided not to include it if you consider that they re-adjusted the potency of the current crowd control actions in the patch.

Probably balance issues associated to that "Sap" ability being too powerful in dungeons or boss fights.

[Holy_Dragoon]

Ohh a semantic war

Well played =) I am humbled.

[Sav]

I was calling Sav out, but it worked for both of you lol. Probably for many others too actually now that I stop and think.

Yes, "Sap" could have been cut on the editing floor. It might show up, it might never appear at all. You just never know. Having never been actively in the game though, I don't think you can call the skill "removed."

Haha, and I, in turn, was calling out Delsus, since he said there had been no suggestion that a Sap action was being considered. I was merely pointing out that the original dev list, in my opinion, did suggest as such.

I can understand the argument regarding the ambiguity of what it means to "sap" something/someone. I was going with what I know from WoW. In that game, sapping is essentially doing what MNK Ability 3 described. I, of course, do not fully expect that, just because that's what Sap is in WoW, that's what it will be in FFXIV.

[ShadowCadja]

Haha, and I, in turn, was calling out Delsus, since he said there had been no suggestion that a Sap action was being considered. I was merely pointing out that the original dev list, in my opinion, did suggest as such.

I can understand the argument regarding the ambiguity of what it means to "sap" something/someone. I was going with what I know from WoW. In that game, sapping is essentially doing what MNK Ability 3 described. I, of course, do not fully expect that, just because that's what Sap is in WoW, that's what it will be in FFXIV.

It was called Sap, that list from FFXIVPro was made from skills that are in the .dats atm, so ya, seems like they removed it before even giving to us. =p

[Holy_Dragoon]

Haha, and I, in turn, was calling out Delsus, since he said there had been no suggestion that a Sap action was being considered. I was merely pointing out that the original dev list, in my opinion, did suggest as such.

I can understand the argument regarding the ambiguity of what it means to "sap" something/someone. I was going with what I know from WoW. In that game, sapping is essentially doing what MNK Ability 3 described. I, of course, do not fully expect that, just because that's what Sap is in WoW, that's what it will be in FFXIV.

In case you are curious, Sap in FF XII is a spell that has constant HP reduction. Like a worse version of Poison (usually), since poison usually works in timed HP drops. It is referred to as Bio in many other FF games.

[BrusselSprout]

Am I too late to call anyone out?

[b0ats]

Never been so excited to boot this game back up in my life.

[Delsus]

Am I too late to call anyone out?

Yep Bruss, you need to make your lil lalafell legs run faster.

[Biggs]

2 hours returning in the form of 15 minute abilities? Yes PLease! Was suprised that they gave more of the hate grabbing moves to War than Pld, but considering you can cross over skills from Mar as a PLd, it makes sense. Love the transportation changes to the city and the changes to crafting as well, and we can finally say goodbye to a metric &*%^ton of useless crafting mats.

Also, really suprised by how well bard is shaping up to look. It gives parties a much needed extra support job.

Cheers to hoping the next major patch is of this caliber.