How find normal players for last quest?

[RicaRuin]

It's just how the Game works. You came late to the party, and now everyone has Gear that's so good that the Bosses don't stand a chance. And people get into the Dungeon because it's part of Main Scenario Roulette which does give neat rewards.

Also if you think like that the last 3.0 Boss will really disappoint you.

[Kyasunshine]

I disagree. Sometimes I like to go back into old content despite having all of my jobs maxed out for well over a year now. That said, that’s not how this game works, nor how the developers want it to. They want level-capped players to queue into old content to help low-level players and new players.

And HOW old players help new players? Just avoid all mechanics and mobs for faster exp from dung?) Dont need this help lol. Its a strange help. And tank with this help (rush dung) can understand how game work? I think no. Just creators dont know what happening if in party with 3 old players play 1 new player. All dung becomes like a race. Do not look around, do not feel the area just run run run run run faster.

[Pepsi_Plunge]

Once again I'm deeply impressed by HyoMinPark, still my favorite forum user on this plattform. But you should be careful not to get hit by Thunder III as

If someone used Sleep on them (it would have to be a Conjurer or White Mage, as no other job can put mobs to sleep in this game)

you forgot about Black Mage
(but I think the OP probably meant the magitek army on the parade ground no tank with a sane mind will ever pull as you can just run past them)

And HOW old players help new players? Just avoid all mechanics and mobs for faster exp from dung?) Dont need this help lol. Its a strange help. And tank with this help (rush dung) can understand how game work? I think no. Just creators dont know what happening if in party with 3 old players play 1 new player. All dung becomes like a race. Do not look around, do not feel the area just run run run run run faster.

Yes, they run through it because most of them have already done it like a million times so they just want their reward and be done with it. Also by present-day standards those are low level dungeons/fights with a lot of design flaws. Best thing to do is stop crying over split milk and just move on - I promise you the level 60 and level 70 finale will put up more of an enjoyable fight.

[Kyasunshine]

Once again I'm deeply impressed by HyoMinPark, still my favorite forum user on this plattform.



Yes, they run through it because most of them have already done it like a million times so they just want their reward and be done with it. Also by present-day standards those are low level dungeons/fights with a lot of design flaws. Best thing to do is stop crying over split milk and just move on - I promise you the level 60 and level 70 finale will put up more of an enjoyable fight.

For me it was an interesting fight with white lady. She kill my friends and I wanted to see the battle longer for revenge. And I have many runs in WoW dungs to MANY runs MANY. But I did not interfere with the players to pass the dungeon. First time only happens once.

[RicaRuin]

For me it was an interesting fight with white lady. She kill my friends and I wanted to see the battle longer for revenge. And I have many runs in WoW dungs to MANY runs MANY. But I did not interfere with the players to pass the dungeon. First time only happens once.

Phase 1 with Livia will mostly always have the same duration, since the damage there is from the cannons and not influenced by player level.

[Iscah]

And HOW old players help new players? Just avoid all mechanics and mobs for faster exp from dung?) Dont need this help lol. Its a strange help. And tank with this help (rush dung) can understand how game work? I think no. Just creators dont know what happening if in party with 3 old players play 1 new player. All dung becomes like a race. Do not look around, do not feel the area just run run run run run faster.

I don't think you're understanding how the party system works. All through the game so far, it might seem like you're being matched with players that are close to your level, but actually a lot of them will be high-leveled players that have been adjusted down to your level.

Without high-leveled players, you would have to wait for three (or seven) other new players to all queue for that dungeon at the same time.



If Ifrit is dying in "seconds" then you're either exaggerating or you're joining an unsynched party via Party Finder. Done normally, it's still a fight. You still get to do stuff.

If you care about harder battles, don't stay at level 50 trying to get "the real experience" of all the fights. Move on. Get to Lv60 or 70 where the fights are more challenging. Even the mid-story trials are a struggle in Stormblood right now, and the Heavensward ones are more complicated too.



Also, unless Pepsi_Plunge has guessed correctly and you're talking about the 'sleeping' armoured giants in Caatrum (which you're supposed to sneak around, not wake up)... either you're misunderstanding, describing it wrong, or something strange is happening with your game. Enemies should not be "asleep", and people rarely use sleeping spells in dungeons.

[SaberMaxwell]

What do you mean "oneshot the boss"? Are you angry your party didn't wipe to Cape Westwind / Castrum / Praetorium? Do you want them to wipe intentionally, because otherwise would be an obstruction to your gameplay?

You're not being very clear with your desires.

[Kyasunshine]

What do you mean "oneshot the boss"? Are you angry your party didn't wipe to Cape Westwind / Castrum / Praetorium? Do you want them to wipe intentionally, because otherwise would be an obstruction to your gameplay?

You're not being very clear with your desires.

I want just SAME practic like Ifrit. Not hard but not FAST (10 second) fight. Its enouth. 1 min fight with boss. Not 10 seconds after all the suspense with 1-50 do not you think?

you would not progress through the story

LoL? I killed the enemy with my own hands is a progress. I did not feel the impact in 10 seconds.

[SaberMaxwell]

I want just SAME practic like Ifrit. Not hard but not FAST (10 second) fight. Its enouth. 1 min fight with boss. Not 10 seconds after all the suspense with 1-50 do not you think?

That's not the fault of the players. That's the design of the instance. In order to emulate that you would need to party finder a minimum item level set version of the dungeon or ask players to halt all action for dozens of seconds at a time.

The former is on you to arrange. The latter hardly makes for a dramatic final fight either.

[Kyasunshine]

That's not the fault of the players. That's the design of the instance. In order to emulate that you would need to party finder a minimum item level set version of the dungeon or ask players to halt all action for dozens of seconds at a time.

The former is on you to arrange. The latter hardly makes for a dramatic final fight either.

Players can just not rush like racers if see beginners in party. Or the system should give a hint in advance that there is a way to pass the dungeon with someone. And not with a group of desperate.
I think the problem is that the players just do not care about the newbies who come into the game, like the developers. Same problem on many mmorpgs).