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    Nolagamer's Avatar
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    Nola Deus
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    Sargatanas
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    Paladin Lv 80

    Last patch and no hydatos nerf?

    With the expansion less than 2 months away I would of expected SE to nerf hydatos in order to make it easier and quicker to complete any additional relics or for first timers. Apparently many people are upset about this since they will be obsolete in ShB expansion. We are in a pre-expansion lull and many people are not playing or logging in regularly like at the beginning of an expansion. Even after the data redistribution I've noticed less players in eureka especially hydatos. Making the relic requirements less and having PW scales buyable from bird watcher would of been a nice change.
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    Player DrWho2010's Avatar
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    Maximum Powerful
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    Hyperion
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    most likely they want to keep people playing Eureka as intended until it's no longer needed to produce a useful weapon.
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    Destati's Avatar
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    Aoki Kha
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    Balmung
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Yeah at the very least I was hoping PW scales would be purchaseable. Between Ovni and nother NMs popping it's hard to get a group together to prep PW, and I can't imagine it getting any easier from here on out.
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    ForteNightshade's Avatar
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    Kurenai Tenshi
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    Paladin Lv 100
    Pyros and Hydatos are basically the only things left with any sort of relevance outside Ultimate. So it isn't entirely surprising they don't want to make them easier, which may encourage people to unsub until Shadowbringers.
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    Player RyuDragnier's Avatar
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    Hayk Farsight
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    Exodus
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    Pyros and Hydatos are basically the only things left with any sort of relevance outside Ultimate. So it isn't entirely surprising they don't want to make them easier, which may encourage people to unsub until Shadowbringers.
    Except the main problem with Hydatos is the abysmal crystal drop rates, which can lead people to just quit it and never return. Anywhere from 5-10 crystals per NM, unless you get the glorious support NM to spawn at which point you get 30 (which is dependent on a BA group being in your instance).

    Considering you need 190 to +1 a single armor set, and 350 total for the weapon upgrades this time around, that's far too much time spent for around 30-60 crystals per instance. Meaning at best case, 18 hours of Eureka. Worst case, that's 36 hours, just for one weapon to be done. Now imagine you're doing multiple weapons or you add the armor set into the mix. It's absolutely ridiculous, and definitely needs crystals dropped at double the rate to remedy the situation, because right now it's too much of a hassle and discourages alt weapons, which would KEEP you in the game and in the areas.
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    Viktor Fontaine
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    Blue Mage Lv 80
    they could've nerfed anemos or something. i played until i hit about level 6 and all i can say it was a miserable slog and i feel no incentive to spend hours grinding there.
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    R'lileen Min'enoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by grinkdaboy View Post
    they could've nerfed anemos or something. i played until i hit about level 6 and all i can say it was a miserable slog and i feel no incentive to spend hours grinding there.
    1-7 is the worst part of levelling. As soon as you find a fate group, it works fine, levelling is pretty fast (especially with help of challenge log). The real nightmare is logos drop rate with people deceiving other locking bunny fate in Pyros or how difficult it is to find people for heatbox farm.
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    Talitha Solarien
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    Odin
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    Bard Lv 100
    Pyros needs drop adaptions for logo farming, virtually nobody does heatbox farming on Light anymore, so any new players are pretty much forced to go to the Marketboard. Hydatos isn't hard but the drop rate for crystals is really low, spawning the right side NMs and PW really does take way too long. And since the Light/Chaos split there is usally only one instance active,even at prime times. They really need to increase the drop rate and make the right side NMs spawn easier/faster.
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    Malboro
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    Monk Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by grinkdaboy View Post
    they could've nerfed anemos or something. i played until i hit about level 6 and all i can say it was a miserable slog and i feel no incentive to spend hours grinding there.
    Same here. Beginning Eureka is the type of grind that for me inspires only apathy. Countless long, boring single-mob fights for little EXP.
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    Tera Luna
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    Louisoix
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    So you wanted Hydatos to be.........watered down.

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