Servers full locked AGAIN!!! Gilgamesh / Cactuar / Balmung

[Veritas-Ancora]

Are you #@$%ing kidding me?!?!?!
Before expansion?!?!?!



This is getting ridiculous.

Why did we waste all of this time reorganizing the servers and then pull this less than one month later?

Free Companies on these servers are not going to bother advertising for Final Fantasy XIV any more if you keep locking the servers before an expansion. I've had 10 separate advertising projects prepared to pick up our WoW players. Everything was aligned. Now this. This was a waste of time.

Make Free Companies Cross-World Membership if you can't get this fixed!!

Word of mouth is how you get a successful brand.

And no, they're not gonna settle for another server if players can't join their friends in the same guild. If this was your plan to fix things, you wasted a lot of money and insulted your community with a gimmick.

[MistakeNot]

The servers are locked again because people insist on moving to them and staying there.
If you play on one of the most populated servers in the game, then you should know by now that it will get locked from time to time.
You even got free transfers recently if you wanted to move to some less overpopulated server.

The recent reorganizing of the data centers had nothing at all to do with certain servers being full, but was to reduce the load on the instance servers in preparation for the upcoming expansion.

[Veritas-Ancora]

The servers are locked again because people insist on moving to them and staying there.
by now that it will get locked from time to time.

"Locked" and "Congested" are two COMPLETELY different things!

Locked means you have to wait until people leave or log off.
Congested means full stop, nobody allows, server is dead to new blood.

We have fought this over, and over, AND OVER again. Every time a server goes congested, the FC communities severely suffer, new blood is lost, and we have to wait a year until the server dies before it gets reopened again.

Either you want people's money, or you don't.

[Rufalus]

Options are move the FC to a world that's not full, or just don't be in the same FC as all of your friends but you can still do all battle content with them and chat by cross-world linkshell. They don't lock worlds to annoy people, it's just battling against physical laws that say one world/server can't have infinite capacity. It wouldn't be worth leaving a world permanently open and unrestricted because they have to provide a service which wouldn't be possible if they allow players to crash the server and bring the game offline.

[Veritas-Ancora]

Options are...

This is a feedback thread.

I've suggested that they need to make FCs cross-server to prevent throttling their memberships.

I'm not here looking for advice on moving my community where I have single-handledly brought in 3,000+ members into my FC over 6 years, either active or inactive. Me moving my active members does not change the fact that every single person has to pay a transfer fee to go if they're not in the FC with the 512 limit. 3,000 accounts, only 512 would move.

There is a problem and it needs to be changed. That's what this forum is about.

[MistakeNot]

"Locked" and "Congested" are two COMPLETELY different things!

Locked means you have to wait until people leave or log off.
Congested means full stop, nobody allows, server is dead to new blood.

Yes, I know what Congested means. But since you are the one who started referring to the servers as "Locked" - in the very title of the thread - I thought it only polite to keep using the same term as you did when referring to the servers status.

We have fought this over, and over, AND OVER again. Every time a server goes congested, the FC communities severely suffer, new blood is lost, and we have to wait a year until the server dies before it gets reopened again.

Either you want people's money, or you don't.

So why do you insist on staying on one of the most populated servers then? If you try to attract more players to an already full server, well that will only cause it to become Congested sooner rather than later.

[Rufalus]

That sounds beyond the scope of an FC if you're inviting many thousands of people and still want more growth. You're free to ask for changes, just my two cents that sounds like a very unusual case and I don't think what S-E is intending for that system.

[Veritas-Ancora]

So why do you insist on staying on one of the most populated servers then? If you try to attract more players to an already full server, well that will only cause it to become Congested sooner rather than later.

Why do you insist on putting your two cents into a discussion that doesn't affect you in any way? You're not even on the same continent. And, surprise, your server is in normal status.

I have brought in 3,000+ subscriptions into Final Fantasy XIV. 3,046 to be exact. I am looking out for my members who are inactive due to death, disability, or other situations outside of their control. It would be pretty damn horrible for them to come back and have to pay a transfer fee because they needed extended time away from the game and had to pay more money just to stay with their friends.

I have not had a lapse of subscription for even a month in six years. The least they can do is offer a Free Company cross-server system to maintain my community's structure so we can even consider an FC transfer.

[Mychael612]

So why do you insist on staying on one of the most populated servers then? If you try to attract more players to an already full server, well that will only cause it to become Congested sooner rather than later.

Because SE has not offered any realistic solution to move entire FCs from one server to another. Sure, there are individual transfers, but we've spent millions of gil on a FC house that we would lose and not be compensated for. Then there's the issue of our inactive members. Since FCs are limited to only 512 people, many of our members who go inactive have to be booted to make room for new members. We always welcome these players back, but if we move to another server, one, how are they going to know where we went, and two, is it really fair then to ask them to pay for a server transfer just to rejoin us? Next, we come to the issue that all servers are not equal. The economies are different across the various servers. As one of the most active FCs on our data center, we've put a lot of work and time into the economy here. Why should we have to give that up because SE is mismanaging their game?

[Mychael612]

Options are move the FC to a world that's not full, or just don't be in the same FC as all of your friends but you can still do all battle content with them and chat by cross-world linkshell. They don't lock worlds to annoy people, it's just battling against physical laws that say one world/server can't have infinite capacity. It wouldn't be worth leaving a world permanently open and unrestricted because they have to provide a service which wouldn't be possible if they allow players to crash the server and bring the game offline.

Well, here are the issues with your options. 1) There is no way to move an FC across worlds. You can do individual transfers, but it's not fair to as 3000+ people to pay to transfer servers. We would also lose the house we spent millions of gil on with little to no change of finding another plot to move to. 2) Cross-world linkshells are VERY limited to only 64 people. This does not work for an FC that is constantly at max player count.

I get that worlds need to be locked, but SE is actively not working on offering realistic solutions to large FCs like ours.