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  1. #131
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    This is a terrible poll.

    Not only is this, as someone else said, a loaded question, but it is entirely black and white and runs a high risk of skewed results.
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  2. #132
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    Grimnir Greywolfe
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    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post
    QUOTE=zeylos;4983672]You don't really seem to understand that no one is asking for them to develop a new race, and that a missing gender is not as much work as a new race model if they are smart.
    No, from the start you are dead wrong.

    A race is 1 male model, 1 female model and 2 clan differences for both. What are we getting in shb? Exactly that. What you're asking to be added? Exactly that. It is not easier to make a male viera or female HROTHGAR just cause we're getting the other half in shb.


    I don't really like using words like this too often but that poster is on the delusional side.[/QUOTE]

    He's entirely delusional. He's attempting to push false hope and build expectations for something that Yoshi P himself said not to expect any time soon. Every time I see him post it's about how we'll have missing genders by 6.0, or maybe 5.x by the latest and that's just spreading misinformation. Misinformation will cause another explosion when 6.0 arrives and there's still no viera men.
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  3. #133
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    Reinha Sorrowmoon
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    I would rather have Hrothgar.

    Asking to have one race now and the other later is a cop out. Sure it feels nice to please everyone, but when you don't take into account the limits that exist in reality then you aren't really making a decision at all. It's just wishful thinking. The fact is that there are no plans to have more races after SHB.

    The devs don't have the luxury of dreaming up results and they have my respect for being able to make a controversial decision about what is best for the game, knowing that every option is going to disappoint some players. This conversation has been a good reminder of why we, the players, don't get a say in how the game is made.
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  4. #134
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    Quote Originally Posted by reivaxe View Post

    No, from the start you are dead wrong.

    A race is 1 male model, 1 female model and 2 clan differences for both. What are we getting in shb? Exactly that. What you're asking to be added? Exactly that. It is not easier to make a male viera or female HROTHGAR just cause we're getting the other half in shb.


    I don't really like using words like this too often but that poster is on the delusional side.
    He's entirely delusional. He's attempting to push false hope and build expectations for something that Yoshi P himself said not to expect any time soon. Every time I see him post it's about how we'll have missing genders by 6.0, or maybe 5.x by the latest and that's just spreading misinformation. Misinformation will cause another explosion when 6.0 arrives and there's still no viera men.
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  5. #135
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    I wish people would stop arguing over whether or not we should have gotten male viera/female hrothgar and just work together to demand that SE make BOTH of them.
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  6. #136
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    Makeda Fyah
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    This game at present actually only has one race: human. All the choices are just ear and tail variations.

    Hrothgar is actually the second race to be playable in FFXIV.

    As of 5.0 we will only have 2 playable races:

    Human and Furry

    If we'd gotten male Viera we'd still only have one race.

    So the choice is obvious - Hrothgar is the more important addition. That said since it's gender locked to the gender I don't play myself, I won't have one... But it is the first actual race option this game has.
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  7. #137
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arngrim_Greyashe View Post
    He's entirely delusional. He's attempting to push false hope and build expectations for something that Yoshi P himself said not to expect any time soon. Every time I see him post it's about how we'll have missing genders by 6.0, or maybe 5.x by the latest and that's just spreading misinformation. Misinformation will cause another explosion when 6.0 arrives and there's still no viera men.
    I literally said that I am HOPEFUL that they are here at 6.0. Also saying that I'm PERSONALLY sure SE will be able to figure something out is not spreading miss information. It doesn't matter if I give my PERSONAL OPINION on something (stating that it is) or not, if they don't have he genders for 6.0, obviously some people will be disappointed, and they have the right to be so. So please I would ask you to stop insulting me, and I would also really appreciate if y'all can stop trying to tell ppl not to be dissatisfied and that they can't complain because of something. Like I previously said, if Viera was launched as male only and hrotgar as female only I bet most of you would have complained even more than us, so please, I will ask you that you speak with respect by doing things such as not calling someone delusional because they expect something
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  8. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    I literally said that I am HOPEFUL that they are here at 6.0. Also saying that I'm PERSONALLY sure SE will be able to figure something out is not spreading miss information. It doesn't matter if I give my PERSONAL OPINION on something (stating that it is) or not, if they don't have he genders for 6.0, obviously some people will be disappointed, and they have the right to be so. So please I would ask you to stop insulting me, and I would also really appreciate if y'all can stop trying to tell ppl not to be dissatisfied and that they can't complain because of something. Like I previously said, if Viera was launched as male only and hrotgar as female only I bet most of you would have complained even more than us, so please, I will ask you that you speak with respect by doing things such as not calling someone delusional because they expect something
    I have never once said people cannot be dissatisfied or complain. Not a single time. The delusional comment is aimed at the comment you made stating that they "can make the opposite genders in 1 - 2 months if they tried." Which is entirely untrue. You can be hopeful all you like, but don't say that they will for sure be around by 6.0 when none of us know if or even when they will be added. My point is, keep yourself grounded. Don't get lost in a headcanon that will set you up for disappointment like everyone did when viera were first announced, completely ignoring the blufever leaks that pointed out there was going to be different races for each gender.
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  9. #139
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    I Like I previously said, if Viera was launched as male only and hrotgar as female only I bet most of you would have complained even more than us, so please, I will ask you that you speak with respect by doing things such as not calling someone delusional because they expect something
    Actually, I wouldn't have cared because I understand that we get what we're given. If I didn't like it, oh well. Others probably do and I'm fine with that. My entire being doesn't revolve around what race to play as in this game. Am I happy we're getting a beastly looking race? For sure! Would I have been upset without them? No. There's no reason to be when I've been playing since 1.0 without them. You truly need to stop your assumptions of others.
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  10. #140
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    :V

    We're still going on about this?
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