The Flow of Battle 1.21

[Stanislaw]

At level 50, and with a bunch of Thaumaturge, that's a given. Say you're with a group of Lv30's and a single THM? What then? I stand corrected on /assist, thanks.

I'm not sure if I understand your question correctly. I did say fighting one mob at a time.

[Starlord]

Are we slowly shifting back to a battle system that more closely resembles that of FFXI?"

Don't Change what made FFXI a Success... So why not add something similar with its own twists to FFXIV? That's like Changing the FF Formula after FF9.. and people are hating it ( but its slowly getting better in the eyes of the consumer, while I personally loved them all.)

[Rydin]

Of course, more danger equates fun. But, you still didn't really answer the question.

I'll be honest... I capped my last battle class last May...
In terms of pulling vs roaming...
Roaming is faster (And therefore, more efficient) but also more dangerous....
Pulling is safer but slower....
So if you can get away with roaming safely... then do it

[Xoo]

I'm not sure if I understand your question correctly. I did say fighting one mob at a time.

Ok, I'm with you now. What I'm more curious to see is after the combo system, the removal of AoE weaponskills from low levels, etc. (See all under RELEVANT POINTS) is if the 10 level gap might be more of a possiblity for efficiency now.

[Xoo]

I'll be honest... I capped my last battle class last May...
In terms of pulling vs roaming...
Roaming is faster (And therefore, more efficient) but also more dangerous....
Pulling is safer but slower....
So if you can get away with roaming safely... then do it

Yes, but can we safely say that roaming is better now, given the points made in the OP and the probability that the 10 level gap hasn't been experimented with lately?

[Lienn]

I agree with OP about the game turning a "FFXIV: FFXI-Wannabe Version"...and i do am against this. I've opposed to most of the dev team changes (mainly battle-related) since 1.18 and believe that might be my position until at least 2.0.

[Stanislaw]

Ok, I'm with you now. What I'm more curious to see is after the combo system, the removal of AoE weaponskills from low levels, etc. (See all under RELEVANT POINTS) is if the 10 level gap might be more of a possiblity for efficiency now.

With the implementation of a job system that gears towards working together more, I would say it would be an increased possibility, yes. However, factoring in the the bonuses links and chains provide, it still might be more efficient in fighting lower level mobs too. It goes both ways.

All in all, what it really comes down to is that this is all speculation. It's all theoretical. For those who want to pursue efficiency, they'll know after the update.

Patch is less than a day away. Patience. =)


PS: I will ask you don't post anymore in the Japanese forums with this issue. Japanese people who can read/speak English do visit the English forums too, you know. Like myself.

[Jinko]

Pull > Sleepga > Assist tank

PS: I will ask you don't post anymore in the Japanese forums with this issue. Japanese people who can read/speak English do visit the English forums too, you know. Like myself.

Too bad yoshi-p doesn't :P

[Xoo]

PS: I will ask you don't post anymore in the Japanese forums with this issue. Japanese people who can read/speak English do visit the English forums too, you know. Like myself.

Tell them I apologize. I'm just looking for intelligent responses and not mindless flaming and thread derailment from the start that ends up in a locked thread, just as my last one.

[Rydin]

Yes, but can we safely say that roaming is better now, given the points made in the OP and the probability that the 10 level gap hasn't been experimented with lately?

yes roaming is still safer (better) for 1 reason....
even against MOBs 5+ levels higher than you, multiple MOBs doesn't automatically equal "wipe" the way a bad pull did in FFXI