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    Quote Originally Posted by SerLuke View Post
    Wait it tells you what mechanics are coming up before they happen? Like I get joining voice chat where a player helps with callouts but having software that does it seems to start to boarder on cheating since it gives an advantage over people who don't use third party software or people on PS4.
    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    ACT does, though. That's why world firsters use it. It tells you well in advance of mechanics. Sure, you still have to remember what to do for each mechanic, but it "takes the edge off" in terms of needing to remember timing. So it very much does give an advantage and will improve someone's play.
    I was unaware that ACT could even do that.
    I don't believe parsers are cheating, as long as it's just showing you the numbers.
    However, I would consider that cheating.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hash_Browns View Post
    I was unaware that ACT could even do that.
    I don't believe parsers are cheating, as long as it's just showing you the numbers.
    However, I would consider that cheating.
    It's basically the DBM of FF XIV. DBM does the same thing in WoW but they allow addons by default and even design a lot of boss fights around it (DBM). But they are not allowed here according the ToS so...while I wouldn't consider it cheating, I would definitely consider it as a breach of the ToS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vahlnir View Post
    It's basically the DBM of FF XIV. DBM does the same thing in WoW but they allow addons by default and even design a lot of boss fights around it (DBM). But they are not allowed here according the ToS so...while I wouldn't consider it cheating, I would definitely consider it as a breach of the ToS.
    Personally speaking, my belief is that if something gives you an unfair advantage - it becomes cheating.
    Parsers gives you raw data of your numbers, and you can use that to better yourself - but you would be the one bettering yourself. Call outs give you a an advantage in the sense that you will never have to truly react to anything, or learn the mechanics. However, to be fair at the end of the day I'm not going to get bent out of shape about it because FFXIV (outside of the PvP) is a co-op game, and it doesn't exactly effect me. I can understand where people are coming from when they say they don't consider it cheating.
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    Last edited by Hash_Browns; 05-13-2019 at 10:58 PM.