Going on 2 hours of radio silence after logging in to find my character in GM jail

[Physic]

The police roll up and arrest you on trumped up charges, you present your side of the story but are unheard (because criminals never tell the truth). You are then locked in jail without trial (because the police never do any wrong and are all stand up individuals with impeccable morals, also they never lie). Seems like an appeal to authority. I am unwilling to blindly trust people in positions of power.

TLDR: I do have an idea, based on OP's testimony. It has raised CONCERN

he presented no evidence, he didnt even say he was told it was for uploading logs, he says, he guesses someone reported him. he said it was for 3rd party software use.

[WaterShield]

he presented no evidence, he didnt even say he was told it was for uploading logs, he says, he guesses someone reported him. he said it was for 3rd party software use.

Which raises further concern. You ever heard of a police officer arresting someone, and then refusing to tell them what they stand accused of?

They cannot detect if a parser is or is not being used, as all it does is read local log files. That means if he indeed was banned for 3rd party software use. It was because (as they stated) they were uploading logs at peoples request. So they left a chat log trail of it as a result.

What incentive would they have to lie about this? If they were harassing people, I think they would have been less mystified as to why they were in the gaol.

[Physic]

Which raises further concern. You ever heard of a police officer arresting someone, and then refusing to tell them what they stand accused of?

you have no idea if they refused to tell him. Based on the other poster's interaction, the gm asked him if he knew why he was there. Once again, you are assuming not based on even what the player claimed.

the player told us;
3rd party software was ban (testimony of a fact)
he tells us its a 10 day ban (testimony of a fact)
he then tells us he guesses its for some old logs, (testimony of speculation)
he never said he was told that, or that he asked him specifically why (no testimony on these questions)

there is no logical reason to debate the sentencing when you only have two claims of fact, which you have not corroborated.
h

[WaterShield]

you have no idea if they refused to tell him. Based on the other poster's interaction, the gm asked him if he knew why he was there. Once again, you are assuming not based on even what the player claimed.

the player told us;
3rd party software was ban (testimony of a fact)
he tells us its a 10 day ban (testimony of a fact)
he then tells us he guesses its for some old logs, (testimony of speculation)
he never said he was told that, or that he asked him specifically why (no testimony on these questions)

there is no logical reason to debate the sentencing when you only have two claims of fact, which you have not corroborated.
h

reported for 3rd party programs. I used to upload logs on request for folks when teaching savage raids. Guess i got reported for it.

I have all the information I need. They had to guess at what specifically was done, as all they gave them was a vague line.

Real world example: You stand accused of committing robbery... somewhere... at some time... at some day.... maybe with or without a weapon.... yeah you don't need to know any details of what you stand accused of JAIL!

Imagine trying to defend yourself in a court of law with... I think they are talking about this??? Prosecution is being vague.

[Physic]

I have all the information I need. They had to guess at what specifically was done, as all they gave them was a vague line.

Real world example: You stand accused of committing robbery... somewhere... at some time... at some day.... maybe with or without a weapon.... yeah you don't need to know any details of what you stand accused of JAIL!

Imagine trying to defend yourself in a court of law with... I think they are talking about this??? Prosecution is being vague.

you assume they were being vague. You havent seen a transcript, or a log, or a screenshot. you have no idea what the gm told him, or what he asked the gm. The player never even claimed the gm hid information.

My point is, you have virtually no information, you are assuming a lot.

[WaterShield]

you assume they were being vague. You havent seen a transcript, or a log, or a screenshot. you have no idea what the gm told him, or what he asked the gm. The player never even claimed the gm hid information.

My point is, you have virtually no information, you are assuming a lot.

Similar to you all assuming that he deserves the ban with little detail about the situation? Also, my point is simply to raise CONCERN. I can't claim with 100% certainty that they are or are not guilty.... but neither can you.

[Physic]

Similar to you all assuming that he deserves the ban with little detail about the situation? Also, my point is simply to raise CONCERN. I can't claim with 100% certainty that they are or are not guilty.... but neither can you.

i am assuming nothing

i know he was banned for using 3rd party software, which is illegal. He never debates this.

you assume that he was banned for old logs he may have uploaded at some point in time, which may have been reported. You assume he was given an unfair punishment, and you arent even sure what the crime is, because the poster never actually told you what it was. You have virtually no details, even assuming the poster is truthful, and you claim its an unfair sentence.