Going on 2 hours of radio silence after logging in to find my character in GM jail

[Physic]

using a 3rd party software is always that level of ban, i believe. technically, its probably the same offense as botting.


Also, many times, people who talk about bans on forums are not being completely accurate, as to what the nature of the offense is. Lets say this guy was botting the marketboard, do you think he would tell everyone? If he was harrassing? Also, publicly uploading player's performances who dont want to be uploaded, allows others to harrass them. The rules are the rules regardless

[WaterShield]

using a 3rd party software is always that level of ban, i believe. technically, its probably the same offense as botting.


Also, many times, people who talk about bans on forums are not being completely accurate, as to what the nature of the offense is. Lets say this guy was botting the marketboard, do you think he would tell everyone? If he was harrassing? Also, publicly uploading player's performances who dont want to be uploaded, allows others to harrass them. The rules are the rules regardless

The rules are indeed the rules. They are not however a divine decree from the heavens. Perhaps the rules should be changed? It seems to myself (along with several others) that this incident was incredibly unfair.

[Physic]

The rules are indeed the rules. They are not however a divine decree from the heavens. Perhaps the rules should be changed? It seems to myself (along with several others) that this incident was incredibly unfair.

an unsupported 3rd party program is an unsupported third party program. And you cant build a case on what someone who got banned claimed is the real story on a forum. 90% of the times i have heard of similar cases, and the truth comes out, its not how the banned person was presenting it. Fishy things the OP says; i used to upload logs, i guess i got reported for it. This implies at some point in his life, he uploaded logs, and maybe some one reported it. Unlikely, his offense would probably be recent, and the gm would verify it themselves. Also, they mention they left the game afk at the marketboard, That sounds like the setup for possibility of the gm wrongly thinking he was a bot. Also i know botters usually get a 10 day ban, and it would explain the gm leaving him in jail, since he wasnt actually there to respond.

also, from what i hear, the parsers give a straight up gameplay advantage because they get and present data faster than players normally get it. Its probably one of the key pieces of software in most bots.

Its not simply a benign piece of software that only provides information after the fact.


basically dude is probably a botter, but regardless, the devs are right to ban software which reads data directly in an illegal way if they catch you using it.

[WaterShield]

an unsupported 3rd party program is an unsupported third party program. And you cant build a case on what someone who got banned claimed is the real story on a forum. 90% of the times i have heard of similar cases, and the truth comes out, its not how the banned person was presenting it.

also, from what i hear, the parsers give a straight up gameplay advantage because they get and present data faster than players normally get it. Its not simply a benign piece of software that only provides information after the fact.

So what you are saying is that the OP is lying.... because you say so. You are also claiming the program does things it doesn't.... It just reads the battle log files that the game is already making... and presents them in an easier to read format. If you wanted to you could achieve the same effect by opening the log files in question and reading them yourself in any text editor.

They already have separate rules dealing with harassment that would be more than sufficient if it is misused.

[Physic]

So what you are saying is that the OP is lying.... because you say so. You are also claiming the program does things it doesn't.... It just reads the battle log files that the game is already making... and presents them in an easier to read format. If you wanted to you could achieve the same effect by opening the log files in question and reading them yourself in any text editor.

i could easily be wrong, he may be telling the truth, but i wouldnt try to build a case about how the GMs action players with no actual evidence of how they action players, as you suggested. You can't really say the GMs are wrong to give a 10 day ban when you have no idea why they gave a 10 day ban.

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[WaterShield]

i could easily be wrong, he may be telling the truth, but i wouldnt try to build a case about how the GMs action players with no actual evidence of how they action players, as you suggested. You can't really say the GMs are wrong to give a 10 day ban when you have no idea why they gave a 10 day ban.

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The police roll up and arrest you on trumped up charges, you present your side of the story but are unheard (because criminals never tell the truth). You are then locked in jail without trial (because the police never do any wrong and are all stand up individuals with impeccable morals, also they never lie). Seems like an appeal to authority. I am unwilling to blindly trust people in positions of power.

TLDR: I do have an idea, based on OP's testimony. It has raised CONCERN

[Physic]

The police roll up and arrest you on trumped up charges, you present your side of the story but are unheard (because criminals never tell the truth). You are then locked in jail without trial (because the police never do any wrong and are all stand up individuals with impeccable morals, also they never lie). Seems like an appeal to authority. I am unwilling to blindly trust people in positions of power.

TLDR: I do have an idea, based on OP's testimony. It has raised CONCERN

he presented no evidence, he didnt even say he was told it was for uploading logs, he says, he guesses someone reported him. he said it was for 3rd party software use.

[Avidria]

also, from what i hear, the parsers give a straight up gameplay advantage because they get and present data faster than players normally get it. Its probably one of the key pieces of software in most bots.

Its not simply a benign piece of software that only provides information after the fact.

The only gameplay advantage it gives you is telling you how you're performing so you can actually use real data/numbers to improve yourself... which wouldn't be an "advantage" at all if everyone could just, y'know, use them. Normally. Through the game itself. But apparently that's Bad.

[Physic]

The only gameplay advantage it gives you is telling you how you're performing so you can actually use real data/numbers to improve yourself... which wouldn't be an "advantage" at all if everyone could just, y'know, use them. Normally. Through the game itself. But apparently that's Bad.

the parser doesnt read your files, it reads your incoming data, normally there is lag as the game decides when to give you the data, the parser gets it first. But the main point is, the software is intercepting the data before it gets to client, which is something most companies are not going to allow unrestricted.

[Kaedan]

The only gameplay advantage it gives you is telling you how you're performing so you can actually use real data/numbers to improve yourself... which wouldn't be an "advantage" at all if everyone could just, y'know, use them. Normally. Through the game itself. But apparently that's Bad.

That's not the case at all. ACT will straight up tell you when attacks are coming so you don't have to watch for telegraphs or casting bars. The program just tells you "Larboard attack incoming" and gives you plenty of time to move to where you need to be. That's, as the other poster said, a straight up advantage.