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    AxlStream's Avatar
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    Huh, glad to see they're up to date in marketing tactics at the very least. Now if only they could get up to date on parsers and metrics...
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    Quote Originally Posted by enthauptet View Post
    Yes it is part of their marketing, a lot of game companies do it.

    https://www.twitch.tv/videos/422130430 - each of these guys was getting paid to play for advertising.

    Game has lots of random paid marketing, here is mizzteq free game promotion https://twitter.com/MTQcapture/statu...42917619220480
    The ToS does not extend too twitch as twitch is not SE's platform so showing Act on stream as far as SE is concerned is not a violation of their Tos. SE does not want you posting parser numbers with in the game itself showing act on twitch is not the same as posting in the games chat.
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    Note: Taking advice from a players alt, is like taking advice from a voice in a dark room. Criticism is a two way street remember that!!

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    Lalah Elakta
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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    The ToS does not extend too twitch as twitch is not SE's platform so showing Act on stream as far as SE is concerned is not a violation of their Tos. SE does not want you posting parser numbers with in the game itself showing act on twitch is not the same as posting in the games chat.
    Ergo, using 3rd party programs is not against the rules. Talking about them in the game is against the rules and will net you a 10 day ban.
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    Kinda weird how parsers are not allowed yet that huge jp blacklist hosted on a 3rd party site is a-ok. I know they can't do anything about it but does show the stark difference in mentality between the west and east communities.
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    Aenn Do'chas
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    Quote Originally Posted by NanaWiloh View Post
    The ToS does not extend too twitch as twitch is not SE's platform so showing Act on stream as far as SE is concerned is not a violation of their Tos. SE does not want you posting parser numbers with in the game itself showing act on twitch is not the same as posting in the games chat.

    Actually they could use a twitch stream as proof of “cheating” or breaking the TOS. More likely they choose not to in this case. Much like their current don’t talk about it policy. If the streamers use their channel to attack other players SE would probably act.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Feidam View Post
    Actually they could use a twitch stream as proof of “cheating” or breaking the TOS. More likely they choose not to in this case. Much like their current don’t talk about it policy. If the streamers use their channel to attack other players SE would probably act.
    Everything I've heard points to the GMs and the STF adamantly not accepting any evidence outside of the game to convict a player, due to the ease of image and video editing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SerLuke View Post
    Wait SqaureEnix pays players to stream this game?
    I doubt they actively partner with streamers but YoshiP has been known to watch the world first races on Twitch which include a visible parser.
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    Jett Rinn
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    Meh...reading all the outrage and hair pulling, and we really don't know the entire story. I do know this, GM's were much worse when FFXI was in it's heyday.

    Personally I'm not going to get triggered by a one sided claim.
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    Remember when SE said they wouldn't abuse the new ToS change and everyone believed them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rattles View Post
    Remember when SE said they wouldn't abuse the new ToS change and everyone believed them.
    So now getting reported for using a third party tool, which has always been explicitly against ToS, is abusing the new rules?
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