Going on 2 hours of radio silence after logging in to find my character in GM jail

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

Yes, they do and yes, you can make accurate calculations using a .log file because there's always a live file being generated whenever you log into the game. If you didn't realize it, the default battle tab records all combat including damage as it happens live, which is where most of the parser are getting their information from as all that information is dumped immediately into the log. It's why when I've seen people using something like ACT while streaming there is usually a few seconds delay on the damage adjusting after burst or on initial hits.

Going any further to prove it isn't worth the forum ban I'm sure I'd get after being reported, so I will stop here.

[SayuyuYuyu]

My friend was banned recently and had to go through the same experience of waiting 4-5 hours for someone to come find her, only to be told that she had to file a false harassment report in order to alert the GMs to her being there.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...lbXkAQP6cl9Oo/

As a disclaimer I agree entirely with what has been said in that Google document, and if it were not 3,000 words past the word limit I would have likely just repeated it myself. I watched the event unfold from the beginning via Discord and I was honestly somewhat surprised that SE would treat their customers like this. Breaking TOS or not, a customer is a customer. Really, the issue is that the jail exists as a way for GMs to isolate players who they perceive to have broken the rules and then communicate with them directly, but it doesn't really give the person much of an opportunity to let someone know they're there. Filing a false harassment report is absolutely not the way to do it, especially since it isn't written anywhere that it's the GM's expected mode of communication.

[SaitoHikari]

You know, I'd be morbidly curious to see what happens if someone actually records in video format what happens in those jails.

Going any further to prove it isn't worth the forum ban I'm sure I'd get after being reported, so I will stop here.

Yeah, no. I'm pretty sure I saw you using this argument before and ran off with the exact same response when challenged.

If it was really packet sniffing, I'm pretty sure they wouldn't have to simulate/estimate the amount of damage inflicted by DoTs, which aren't recorded in the battle log. And if it was really packet sniffing, there wouldn't be a 2-3 day period after every major patch where they simply don't work because the algorithm to properly read things from new content doesn't yet exist. If it was packet sniffing, such things wouldn't be necessary, as all the information would be grabbed server side. But it isn't, so they have to constantly update and maintain them after every patch.

[Gihwezi]

Damn I made one last post to this thread and went to bed, woke up to find it doubled in size and thought I was gonna find some casual conversation coming back in @_@

[Causality]

Meanwhile, hundreds of players are busy being involved in actual cheating via DoL/H bots and hunt sniffers but the GMs can't/won't do squat about them, nor will the STF.

It's stupid as heck to get a 10 day suspension simply because you mentioned a third party program and someone decided to report you. That's deserving of a warning at worst for a first time offense.

I have RMT bots I reported for spamming Shouts still on my Black List since day 1 of the RMT report System :\/

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

I have RMT bots I reported for spamming Shouts still on my Black List since day 1 of the RMT report System :\/

They don't delete the characters. They just ban them.

[Nestama]

I have RMT bots I reported for spamming Shouts still on my Black List since day 1 of the RMT report System :\/

You can remove them if they've been on your BList for that long, as they're either most likely banned, or abandoned. (deleted) only appears if the user deletes their character.

[Veis_Alveare]

My friend was banned recently and had to go through the same experience of waiting 4-5 hours for someone to come find her, only to be told that she had to file a false harassment report in order to alert the GMs to her being there.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1...lbXkAQP6cl9Oo/

As a disclaimer I agree entirely with what has been said in that Google document, and if it were not 3,000 words past the word limit I would have likely just repeated it myself. I watched the event unfold from the beginning via Discord and I was honestly somewhat surprised that SE would treat their customers like this. Breaking TOS or not, a customer is a customer. Really, the issue is that the jail exists as a way for GMs to isolate players who they perceive to have broken the rules and then communicate with them directly, but it doesn't really give the person much of an opportunity to let someone know they're there. Filing a false harassment report is absolutely not the way to do it, especially since it isn't written anywhere that it's the GM's expected mode of communication.

This is completely unacceptable and SE should be ashamed of their abysmal customer service. Banning someone over parsing is already stupid but treating them that way makes it that much worse.

That GM should suffer some sort of penalty and they definitely shouldn't be in any kind of customer-facing role, they're inconsiderate and not cut out for this job in the slightest.

[SerLuke]

Now I’m about to ask a question, just a question so I don’t want a big fight or anything, but how many bans have to happen because of parsing to make people not do it, or is this a hill to die on?

I mean personally if someone is parsing I think they assume the risk that they know it’s against the TOS(if they agree with the rule or not)and could be banned.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

Now I’m about to ask a question, just a question so I don’t want a big fight or anything, but how many bans have to happen because of parsing to make people not do it, or is this a hill to die on?

I mean personally if someone is parsing I think they assume the risk that they know it’s against the TOS(if they agree with the rule or not)and could be banned.

Why stop doing it when you can just not talk about it and keep doing it? The only people affected by it would be PS4 players.