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  1. #41
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    Rowde's Avatar
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    Willig Rowde
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    Hyperion
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    Quote Originally Posted by B0YRaNmA View Post
    What's considered to be good at PvP? Not dying at all? If that was the case, why PvP since no one will die. If number of death counts as you being bad then I have 0 death on occasion. Am I good then or bad?
    Well that depends on what mode your in. All 3 FL modes have a mechanic baked into them for earning a majority of the points that contribute to victory. Kills are a secondary factor. You can actually win without killing anybody in all three FL modes, but kills can still contribute to an overall victory faster since each kill does add points to your team and SUBTRACT points from the team of the player that was killed.

    Being good at FL requires personal knowledge of the class you are playing as, effective teamwork, and situational awareness. That last one is a big one encompassing things like... don't chase, don't run off on your own, don't approach a ice/nodes by yourself if 3 or more opponents are already hitting it... I've seen so many tanks get killed at ice after running in solo. Final report comes in with them contributing like 3 points from the ice... which is completely negated by the negative points they lost their team from their death.

    Some deaths are bound to happen, but each one should make you reevaluate the situation. Does your party not have a healer, or is the healer you do have subpar? Then maybe you shouldn't be taking point and instead be hanging back with the DPS and using draw-in to pull opponents into the pack to be slaughtered.

    Even in the scenario you have presented in the OP, how did you get yourself in a situation where an opponent could SAFELY spam an emote on you for 25 seconds without any fear of retaliation? That means you were either alone in the first place, or your team got overwhelmed somehow. So learn to evaluate match-ups from a distance. Is the incoming enemy squad larger than yours, or do they have a healer with them when you don't? Perhaps a strategic retreat is in order...

    That isn't always going to be the case, for "king of the hill" type nodes as it might be better to stand your ground and take a death if it means you get to hold the node longer. If you can stretch the engagement out to where your team earns more points from the node even after factoring out the subtracted points from your death, well that's still a net gain for your team then. Also part of situational awareness... and again, if the final result is that your team won then in actuality that was 25 seconds WASTED by the player spamming the emote when they could have been doing something else to help contribute to their teams victory.
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  2. #42
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    NessaWyvern's Avatar
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    Nessa Goddessly
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    Ravana
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    Quote Originally Posted by B0YRaNmA View Post
    There's other taunt, why? Teabagging? Every game I go into, there's always someone doing it, and squat is worst then sit or kneel.
    Arguably I'd say sit and kneel are worse, because they actually touch your poor character's face, but that's just me. In the end they are just pixels on the screen, and you getting mad means they won.
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    Last edited by NessaWyvern; 05-11-2019 at 05:17 PM.

  3. #43
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    SpiritMuse's Avatar
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    Lelane Lavellan
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    Cerberus
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Look at it this way: that's 25 seconds he's wasting on gloating over a single kill while not doing anything useful at all. He's leaving his team a man down just as surely as if he'd been killed himself. Plus the whole thing just reminds me of those endless videos of idiots in fps games who spend time running over and teabagging their opponents only to promptly get shot dead themselves because they were too busy gloating over their single kill to pay attention to their surroundings...
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  4. #44
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    Ali Lifesaver
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    Quote Originally Posted by B0YRaNmA View Post
    So sexual harassment is considered petty, got it
    I hope you realize you are not your character.
    Don't take these things so personal.
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  5. #45
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    Jowy Khah
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    Zodiark
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    I'd understand if they put coeurl pants on and wore the namazu head while doing /squat.......
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  6. #46
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    Crimson Bloodrose
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    Summoner Lv 100
    Don't expect any sort of politeness or well manners from any pvp community, you'll come across the worst kind of behaviours in there. SE removing the chat in PVP should give you a small hint. I'm sorry but there isn't an "emote problem" in here TC.
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    Last edited by Gallus; 05-11-2019 at 06:38 PM.

  7. #47
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    Xant'cha Argoth
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    This is a joke right. No one is really this thing skinned RIGHT????
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  8. #48
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    Quote Originally Posted by spf1200 View Post
    This is a joke right. No one is really this thing skinned RIGHT????
    *Thin*. And harassment in PVP does indeed suck. Though I don't share TC's feelings about emotes having to be removed.
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  9. #49
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    Samuel Fernguard
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    You know even if the squat emote is banned, I can just jump up and down on your corpse right? Lul.
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  10. #50
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    Nessa Goddessly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gallus View Post
    Don't expect any sort of politeness or well manners from any pvp community, you'll come across the worst kind of behaviours in there. SE removing the chat in PVP should give you a small hint. I'm sorry but there isn't an "emote problem" in here TC.
    You can also come across the best kinds of behaviours in PvP. Teamwork, honesty, healthy competition etc. I actually ended up meeting my husband through PvP in this game.
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