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    PharisHanasaki's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by frostmagemari View Post
    After reading the letter from the producer, i would like people who have asked for Viera (and possibly Hrothgar) to humor me on something.
    Could you think of another service or item you would purchase if the store or salesman told you "It's not actually finished, because that would've been too hard; but we worked on our own time to get something done." and still insisted on charging you full price for the item? Would your own employer let you get away with that? Would you let your own employees get away with that?

    Is this enough to make me consider hanging the game up? Probably not; i was never interested in the two races to begin with, but i can see that this kind of practice won't serve the game well in the long term. I'll have to see if this mindset bleeds into future parts of the game; i hope it doesn't.
    This analogy would work if either Viera or Hrothgar were missing animations, or if they were wearing just gear specially crafted for either race. But they work with all available gear, got their own emotes, 2 legs, 2 arms, a head, a torso, now we even get some accesories.

    Just because it's missing either gender, it does not mean either is unfinished.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlachtga View Post
    for sure

    "GIVE ME ATTENTION WHILE I BRING UP THIS NON-ISSUE REEEE"
    So i guess this isn't your point then. We're not allowed to criticize the game yet. Perhaps the next feature they decide they don't need anymore.

    Quote Originally Posted by PharisHanasaki View Post
    This analogy would work if either Viera or Hrothgar were missing animations, or if they were wearing just gear specially crafted for either race. But they work with all available gear, got their own emotes, 2 legs, 2 arms, a head, a torso, now we even get some accesories.

    Just because it's missing either gender, it does not mean either is unfinished.
    Please read the plethora of posts i have made during this thread that mention this is not about the sexes. This is about the issue of headgear, a display feature that is present in all races with exception to the two new races.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anzaman View Post
    Well, you do you, I guess. I never saw them promise that we'd have "baseline feature", for date X, but maybe I missed it in some interview.
    I have next to all headgear hidden anyways, so I don't care about them.
    So.. you would accept products to ship to you without baseline features, and that would be fine? You're right.. you do you indeed.
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    Last edited by frostmagemari; 05-11-2019 at 11:46 AM. Reason: better to edit than double post

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    What if we got lioness but thanos snapped away half the world to free the resources we need, youd feel pretty bad then wouldnt you, people who want that stuff
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yllania View Post
    What if we got lioness but thanos snapped away half the world to free the resources we need, youd feel pretty bad then wouldnt you, people who want that stuff
    What if someone posted who actually read what i said? Now THAT would be a miracle.
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    Since they released Au ra with arms and head pieces 100%, and now are telling us that they are doing the new race head in their spare time, I find it difficult to believe. Aren't they doing the basic for all the released races?
    They could have made the same argument about au ra, "Au ra will come without head pieces because of their horns, but dev team is doing the head pieces in their spare time". What's the difference? Little.

    It's easy enough to just tell, untill I see the headgear and think for myself "woah, this piece must have been difficult to adapt".
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    You paid full price for Stormblood, which came with exactly 0 new races.
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    *Gentle gasp*
    What if... what if some kind soul(s) on the dev team made male Viera/female Hrothgar on their own time without telling Yoshi P... wouldn't that be wonderful?

    #Beingsarcastic
    #NoI'mnottryingtoconvincemyselfthatit'ssarcasmtokeepfromgettingmyhopesupwhatareyoutalkingabout
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    Quote Originally Posted by frostmagemari View Post
    Could you think of another service or item you would purchase if the store or salesman told you "It's not actually finished, because that would've been too hard; but we worked on our own time to get something done." and still insisted on charging you full price for the item? Would your own employer let you get away with that? Would you let your own employees get away with that?
    Your analogy is wrong here.

    What actually is happening is this. You go to a salesman to purchase a service/item etc. And the salesman tells you "Here's the item you want with all the core features included. But wait, there's more! There's this new side feature that we've been developing that is still not yet finished that comes with it".

    Would you buy this service/item now?? Or would you reject it since a side feature is not complete so now it's completely ruined for you?
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    Thanks OP, you made me return to this thread. It's a wonderful one http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...tasy-XIV/page1
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    Then....... Don’t...... Buy Shadow Bringers? I’m sorry, I’m really confused what result you are expecting to get from this forum.
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    “Courage is the magic that turns dreams into a reality”

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