Playable kids in FFXIV

[bluejayz]

If you can play as a LaLa you should be able to play as a teen

[Gihwezi]

If you can play as a LaLa you should be able to play as a teen

There's straight up no correlation between the two at all.......

[ChocoFeru]

If you can play as a LaLa you should be able to play as a teen

Therefore, if you play as a Lala you don't need to play as a teen. PROBLEM SOLVED THANK YOU.

Now let's just stop trying to get playable kids as an excuse to sexualize them.

[Jojoya]

If you can play as a LaLa you should be able to play as a teen

I'm trying to understand your leap in logic.

A Lalafell playable character is an adult, not a child. If you think they're children, that's a you problem.

[Kieren-Dohla]

I'm trying to understand your leap in logic.

A Lalafell playable character is an adult, not a child. If you think they're children, that's a you problem.

I just think of Lala's as either disturbing looking adult/children hybrids or potatoes. Mostly potatoes. ;p

[Iscah]

Re. the issue of portraying children in violent situations, the entire plot of Stormblood (especially the early stages) revolves around us taking part in a war - one we've been forced into, but we're still told we have to do it.

That would take on quite a different tone with a child character.


The story is generally written with a young adult character in mind.

Pretty sure Elezen age slower than the rest of the races. I don't have my lorebook handy but I do think that was part of their blurb. Though I might be mixing that up with them living /slightly/ longer.

The lorebook says that "with lifespans one- or two-tenths again as long as their fellow races, their physical maturity is somewhat delayed" and they'll overtake adult Hyuran height around age 20.

I take that to mean their entire aging process plays out at that slower speed. So Alphinaud is physically somewhere around 13-14.

Up the other end of the scale, I would have estimated Edmont to be around 50, but he's 59 - which is consistent with aging "20% slower" than the average person.

(But to throw a spanner into the works, if you do the maths then 34-year-old Carvallain was 19 in the "ten years ago" sections of 1.0's plot, and already an adult at that point. I'm inclined to think they forgot to recalculate ages with the five-year timeskip, and he should have been 24 then / 39 now, but still that's the official timeline.)

It seems that Miqo'te are very adept at looking younger than they are... I only just found out that Khloe is 13 years old...

They mentioned that at the lore panel in the first recent Fanfest - I can't remember where the 13 comes from (possibly the second lorebook?), but previous text for the Khloe doll/minion indicated that she's 10, and they've stealth-rewritten it to match the other less-editable reference.

Why are people trying to justify playing as a child? With all the glam options in this game, it reeks of pedo. Disgusting lol.

While I entirely agree that there shouldn't be playable child characters in this game, not everyone who would like to play as a child character is doing it with "dishonourable intentions", so you shouldn't instantly assume that's their motivation. It will also appeal to people who just like cute characters (and maybe haven't thought through all the implications of a child being the main character of this particular story).

I've said before, I do really like the childlike Viera concept art. I think it's an appealing character design, in an entirely innocent way.

It can't really work for an FFXIV playable character concept because of all the issues discussed in this topic so far, but if they did somehow exist, I'd certainly be making one as an alt - primarily for playing around with glamours. He'd be dressing up in the sort of outfits that are too 'cute' for my Elezen (but he gets stuck wearing them anyway because someone has to, and they look even worse on my Au Ra). This isn't the depths of depravity, is it? But it would work better on a younger-looking character than is currently available besides Lalafell, whose proportions are a bit more "squashed up" than I'd like.

(If I was shown the costume and told to design a character to wear it, I'd probably come up with something in the realm of that Viera concept art.)

The 'time bubble' refers to player progression, in which various story lines can be (and often are) completed out of sync from one another. Canonically, time on Hydaelyn is 1:1 with the real world (with accelerated in-game day/night transitions for obvious design reasons). This was established a very long time ago. Years ago, even.

Established when? And how?

We have an official statement that time does not behave normally, so where is the information that overrides that?

Again, it's not about proving that characters have said X amount of time has passed within the game, because the "time bubble" concept is about saying that the game takes place in a very small amount of time with regards to character ages and dates, even if it provably should and does take much longer for those events to play out.

It's not saying the whole story has to squeeze into that small space of time. It's excusing the fact that it really does take longer, and yet the characters haven't gotten any older.

[Gwenorai]

I will never understand why people wish to play as teens/kids... Are teens/kids not getting enough validation in other games? If you're an adult and you want to run around as an actual child then I'm sorry then I honestly find that majorly suspicious. I understanding wanting to play a character that is your actual age. But I have a sneaky suspicion that those who are wanting to play as children/teens aren't actually teens or children. Besides, half of the races you can easily be a 'teen' already. All of the teenagers, barring Elezen are adult size in height. You either have, child - or adult teenager, there's no in between with the models. There's a teenage Male Au'ra in the stepps who is full height for instance. Canon WoL looks like he was in his late teens when he started; he's still average height. A lot of the female Miqo'te you come across seem to be very young as well, in their late teens - etc, they are still of average kitty height.

[Azelas]

Are teens/kids not getting enough validation in other games?

Absolutely not. I know that the roster of playable characters across all existing JRPGs is literally 90% teenagers, but gods dammit I will not be satisfied until we have 99% teenagers across every genre!!

[Gihwezi]

Absolutely not. I know that the roster of playable characters across all existing JRPGs is literally 90% teenagers, but gods dammit I will not be satisfied until we have 99% teenagers across every genre!!

It's 5 AM and I can't tell if this is serious or not but I'm squinting real hard at this regardless.