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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    I'm just going to leave this here because it comes to me every time I hear devs mention things like this. If you know of this game's modding scene, his post becomes especially laughable.

    Already been discussed in this thread, you are wrong, the modders routinely say they can't fix certain bits of gear they mod to make them right,frequently break character models and textures. Plus, from the pictures I've seen, most of their work looks flat, like an image basically just laid onto a model. There's no texture, no feel to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth View Post
    Already been discussed in this thread, you are wrong, the modders routinely say they can't fix certain bits of gear they mod to make them right,frequently break character models and textures. Plus, from the pictures I've seen, most of their work looks flat, like an image basically just laid onto a model. There's no texture, no feel to it.
    He isn't entirely wrong. When they claim we can't have barefeet because it would cause us to float... you can only laugh since modders more or less accommodated for that exact issue—even adding toes on an otherwise paddle model. Furthermore, the excuse becomes absurd considering how often we float or clip through things anyway. Can modders fix everything? Of course not. But the work some of them have done are far better than many of the outfits SE comes up with.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    But the work some of them have done are far better than many of the outfits SE comes up with.
    In terms of what ? Personal preferences/styles ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ForteNightshade View Post
    He isn't entirely wrong. When they claim we can't have barefeet because it would cause us to float... you can only laugh since modders more or less accommodated for that exact issue—even adding toes on an otherwise paddle model. Furthermore, the excuse becomes absurd considering how often we float or clip through things anyway. Can modders fix everything? Of course not. But the work some of them have done are far better than many of the outfits SE comes up with.
    Can I see this accommodation? I'm curious what was done. I've got some suspicions that their "fixes" absolutely ruin the appearances of certain gear that they either never use or just don't care about. I don't doubt modders talent and enthusiasm, however they work without a lot of the restrictions actual devs have.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tharne View Post
    In terms of what ? Personal preferences/styles ?
    Design. Of course, subjectivity plays a factor but considering some of the outfits modders have either ported from other games or designed themselves. They are typically better. Sadly, I cannot post pictures because the OF isn't exactly going to approve of it lol.

    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Can I see this accommodation? I'm curious what was done. I've got some suspicions that their "fixes" absolutely ruin the appearances of certain gear that they either never use or just don't care about. I don't doubt modders talent and enthusiasm, however they work without a lot of the restrictions actual devs have.
    For the barefeet mod? It doesn't ruin anything. They simply redesigned the foot to essentially cover where the sandal would be otherwise. It looks seamless for the most part, but as I said above. I can't link an example here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Can I see this accommodation? I'm curious what was done. I've got some suspicions that their "fixes" absolutely ruin the appearances of certain gear that they either never use or just don't care about. I don't doubt modders talent and enthusiasm, however they work without a lot of the restrictions actual devs have.


    Looks fine to me. The major drawback with a community mod rather than something official from SE is that this only applies to certain character models. For instance, this mod wouldn't work on a Lalafell or a Roegadyn because their feet are shaped differently.

    Still... better than nothing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Khalithar View Post
    I'm just going to leave this here because it comes to me every time I hear devs mention things like this. If you know of this game's modding scene, his post becomes especially laughable.

    I've seen videos of modded works. And some of them can't fix simple stuff in their work and don't know what causes it. Take for example modding armor pieces. The modded armor can't interact with other pieces of armor. So if you had a long sleeve coat, it will just clip with any long sleeve gloves. It won't interact like the armor made by the designers so that both pieces fit harmonically with any other that interacts with it. Another example is those using very long hair mods. You will see the animation moves really bad since it was made from a pony tail or any of the long hairs we have that has very few and short links to move them. So the hair moves like it's a pendulum.

    Not to mention also that the majority of the modded works only work on certain races/genders/faces etc. Unlike what the dev team does each time they make a new gear.
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    Hmm, I hope they are at least focusing on head gear from level 71 to 80 for Viera and Hrothgar. I can understand not going back and update that gear but shouldn't stop them from moving forward.
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    They can let us run barefeet i said before there are NPC that are like that, its rly just the "floating" and i wonder how much that actually is, like the shortest sandals are like 2cm max, i wonder if would even notice.

    And what i dont get at all is, the game comes from the ppl that traditionally move without shoes inside their homes so its kinda rly weird...
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    im actually curious if the bunny crowns are part of that 540 thatll show up so we get the hilarity of double bunny eared viera, or those huge ears poking through the top of the werewolf ones like they had to cut earholes in the ears, sometimes silly fun is just as important as super serial (something i REALLY hope the ff7r devs are keeping in mind)
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