Ast cards should stack.

[MorbolvampireQueen6]

As said above our cards should stack when u got 2 ast in a group 1 of us are worthless and might as well afk since we can be overlapped with cards even with just 1 we should be allowed 2 stack 2 cards on a person.

pretty much when i see another ast in party i dc myself and wait 2 be kicked because my cards don't matter when they either overlap or have theirs up

[Veis_Alveare]

No.

This is flawed for a multitude of reasons. We won't go into how OP double Balance during a burst would be and how well AST can synergize with each other with Sects, that's all very clear.

Having your cards overwritten isn't the end of the world and it isn't even your primary source of damage. An amazing group playing near perfectly can add maybe 1k with really great Balance luck where as an individual AST will be at 3k+ dps.

As to you waiting to be kicked that's literally against ToS and is incredibly immature either way. You do your best to be courteous and maybe if the other AST overwrites your extended Balance with something else you stop healing and make them do everything but you get over it.

[Kurando]

pretty much when i see another ast in party i dc myself and wait 2 be kicked because my cards don't matter when they either overlap or have theirs up

That's a report right there. You do that and waste everyone's time, you'll get a deserved ban eventually.

[MorbolvampireQueen6]

That's a report right there. You do that and waste everyone's time, you'll get a deserved ban eventually.

If se has a proplem they shouldnt allow 2 of the same job in the same party are allow us 2 stack im not staying in something that keeps me from using my cards nor am i taking the penality 4 leaving.

[Kurando]

If se has a proplem they shouldnt allow 2 of the same job in the same party are allow us 2 stack im not staying in something that keeps me from using my cards nor am i taking the penality 4 leaving.

The only problem is the one YOU are making. I don't like Noct AST overwriting SCH shields, but it happens. Everyone else learns to adapt to double job parties, deal with it because I'm telling you if you abuse DC just so you can avoid the penalty, a ban will be much worse.

[Canadane]

If se has a proplem they shouldnt allow 2 of the same job in the same party are allow us 2 stack im not staying in something that keeps me from using my cards nor am i taking the penality 4 leaving.

You should absolutely be eating the penalty. You’ll be out of DF for 30 minutes while someone else now can’t kick for 4 hours.

[Cidel]

Ehhh, I dunno about "stacking" effects, but it would be nice if one AST's expanded card effect didn't overwrite another AST's preexisting extended or enhanced single-target effect, since those potencies are stronger. Somewhat minor, but there have been times when a co-AST single card buffs a party member (say, arrow on a BLM) and I have an expanded balance ticking. I think a card's relative strength should take priority between 2 ASTs, ie: Expanded < Normal/Extended < Enhanced. A normal/extended card wouldn't overwrite an enhanced card and an expanded effect can only overwrite another expanded effect.

You should know right off the bat that the DF already uses an algorithm so two of the same job are not paired together. If you are paired with another AST, it means that there are no other healers in the queue, or none that meet the requirements for the duty you are in.

Is this really an actual thing? Because there have been countless 24-man raids where I see one double healer party (or more) and looking at the other parties figure the algorithm should have just made a party with an AST/WHM each instead of AST/AST and WHM/WHM parties. Or AST/WHM and AST/SCH instead of AST/AST and WHM/SCH. Unless 24-man raids are the exception to this rule.

[Veis_Alveare]

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Completely unrelated - your signature is one of the best things I've ever seen on these forums.

[Cidel]

Completely unrelated - your signature is one of the best things I've ever seen on these forums.

[Gemina]

Is this really an actual thing? Because there have been countless 24-man raids where I see one double healer party (or more) and looking at the other parties figure the algorithm should have just made a party with an AST/WHM each instead of AST/AST and WHM/WHM parties. Or AST/WHM and AST/SCH instead of AST/AST and WHM/SCH. Unless 24-man raids are the exception to this rule.

Indeed it is. Particularly in 8-man queues. For alliance raids, the algorithm is not perfect. Think LoTR when transporting locked out players are placed in the wrong alliance for the Atomos'. I've had those alliances as well where two of them have double of the same healer, but different from each other. Makes for some good lols. I actually don't mind it that much since I get to adlo the tank in the alliance without a shielder.