New Instanced Raids (03/07/2012)

[Agoven]

So,

a) 1 unique mob
b) all other mobs are copy pasted
c) whole dungeon is copy pasted

some enormous efforts over here

Really? Are we really going to complain about graphics? Creating a dungeon is difficult enough. Creating mobs and AI for them is very labor intensive. Balancing it all with the new job system...releasing all the new crafting items. I'm surprised they even added Chimera. I was expecting them hold that till 2.0.

I don't expect even 1 new graphical asset in the dungeon...we got at least one...

We see barely 3 minutes of dungeon footage and people are going to make full assumptions. You know what they say when you assume?

If I threw any of you complainers into the coding and design room I wonder what I would get in a month ... no wait a years time. You might actually spend 6 months just to draw 1 3D image.

YES THE WHITE KNIGHT HAS ARRIVED better then being a TROLL!

[ThePatriarch]

Really? Are we really going to complain about graphics? Creating a dungeon is difficult enough. Creating mobs and AI for them is very labor intensive. Balancing it all with the new job system...releasing all the new crafting items. I'm surprised they even added Chimera. I was expecting them hold that till 2.0.

I don't expect even 1 new graphical asset in the dungeon...we got at least one...

We see barely 3 minutes of dungeon footage and people are going to make full assumptions. You know what they say when you assume?

If I threw any of you complainers into the coding and design room I wonder what I would get in a month ... no wait a years time. You might actually spend 6 months just to draw 1 3D image.

YES THE WHITE KNIGHT HAS ARRIVED better then being a TROLL!

I like your logic. As paying customers no one should complain. We should accept every last morsel of this mediocrity and accept it warmly as if it were amazing. Shame on them for expecting more!

This patch could be awesome, I am not saying anything negative about it. However, I think some of us are dissapointed in the lack of what "seems" to be coming out. They key word being "seems". Not everything is included in the notes, and there could be so much cool shit that we just wont know what to do first. I hope so! I think the job system, combined with classes seem overly convoluted. 2 new time rush dungeons. Recipes, my mind is blown.

Ultimately when it boils down, anyone who wants to complain, will do just that. Also we will always have to deal with white knights who worship something so mediocre. We coexist. Know that not all of us are trying to pick e-fights, we are just simply stating our opinions. We are more than happy to listen to yours.

[Agoven]

I like your logic. As paying customers no one should complain. We should accept every last morsel of this mediocrity and accept it warmly as if it were amazing. Shame on them for expecting more!

This patch could be awesome, I am not saying anything negative about it. However, I think some of us are dissapointed in the lack of what "seems" to be coming out. I think the job system, combined with classes are seemingly overly convoluted. 2 new time rush dungeons. Recipes.

Ultimately when it boils down, anyone who wants to complain, will do just that. Also we will always have to deal with white knights who worship something so mediocre. We coexist.

There are proper ways to complain and constructive criticism. WE KNOW 2.0 has the new graphics...we know up till 2.0 that NEW CONTENT is surrounding mainly the umbral storyline...why would they put new assets in a graphical system they moving off of? It'll take that much more time to convert to the new system.

We know that many of the patches thus have been system overhaul intensive. You have to balance those systems and design before you add content. Content is not difficult but labor intensive. Battle systems change the entire way you play that content.

So everyone should be focusing in on how is the battle system changing...and how does the game play. The content will come we know it's coming...2.0!!! FTW!!!!

As a paying customer I complain with my checkbook. I don't like it, I don't pay for it...you paying means there's something keeping you from leaving something you like perhaps?

Plainly stating that they put no effort in something is ludicrous. Especially when one has seen a lil video and not played it at all...and when you play it you may not like it...others might.

That was my point...plain and simple. If you want to make blanket statements by all means...but when you make them in an asinine way I'm going to comment about it.

I'm in no way defending SE. I'm defending developers and designers in general...if you gonna bleep such a statement at least analyze it and give constructive feedback.

[RolandDebreton]

Really? Are we really going to complain about graphics? Creating a dungeon is difficult enough. Creating mobs and AI for them is very labor intensive. Balancing it all with the new job system...releasing all the new crafting items. I'm surprised they even added Chimera. I was expecting them hold that till 2.0.

I don't expect even 1 new graphical asset in the dungeon...we got at least one...

We see barely 3 minutes of dungeon footage and people are going to make full assumptions. You know what they say when you assume?

If I threw any of you complainers into the coding and design room I wonder what I would get in a month ... no wait a years time. You might actually spend 6 months just to draw 1 3D image.

YES THE WHITE KNIGHT HAS ARRIVED better then being a TROLL!

Being sensible and respectable to a labor intensive effort is not being a "White Knight." Bravo for you pointing it out.

To Laf: I had to point this out to my 12 year old son the other day, (you are probably less mature) the "original" FFXIV was a product that took five years to get to us and it had very little content. In less than a year, in months these people have programmed and coded some amazing new content. Lighten up, douche

[Laf]

Really? Are we really going to complain about graphics

Irrelevant, but you can complain if you want.

Creating a dungeon is difficult enough

It's difficult if you are making first dungeon for your new game. Not, if you have premade tools and some assets, even less if you have just to reuse all of your assets.

Creating mobs and AI for them is very labor intensive

AI is already created, reuse it or modify(applies only to final boss) and reuse. Indeed, creating tons of new mobs is time consuming, but we are talking about a few. They could've just modified them, but they didn't even bother to recolor them.

Balancing it all with the new job system...

It just set of few new skills and armors, nothing major or groundbreaking. And it's nothing new for dev team. Don't try to exaggerate things.

releasing all the new crafting items. I'm surprised they even added Chimera. I was expecting them hold that till 2.0

Most of the new crafting items are old/recolor items with new recipe and/or name. Nothing surprising about chimera:
a)we knew about dungeon ways back
b)old high rank dungeon have 1 unique boss

I don't expect even 1 new graphical asset in the dungeon...we got at least one...

I did expect get some new thingies... and we only got 1. Notice how our views differ?

We see barely 3 minutes of dungeon footage and people are going to make full assumptions. You know what they say when you assume?

Whole 3 minutes and nothing new. Do you know what for promo video are used for?

Sidenote: you assume quite a lot yourself.

If I threw any of you complainers into the coding and design room I wonder what I would get in a month ... no wait a years time. You might actually spend 6 months just to draw 1 3D image.

offtopic and irrelevant.

example: You don't like/criticize my something(car)?!

If I threw any of you complainers into the car design and assemble room I wonder what I would get in 1 year ... no wait 6 years time. You might actually spend 2 years just to design car's bumper.

YES THE WHITE KNIGHT HAS ARRIVED better then being a TROLL!

Someone says something I don't like = troll... My sides.


P.S HALP! I'm about to be attacked from all fronts!