CUL level 50 quest, requires better gear than the reward?

[SamSmoot]

Trying the level 50 CUL quest. Need to make four HQ items. I've spent hours running around gathering HQ materials, and have used most of them without managing to make one HQ item. I guess the only option is to buy all new gear other than one reward item, then load them up with the best materia possible.
I've even tried buying completed HQ dishes, but they don't seem to count against it..

Crafting in WoW was mostly useless, but it's just torture here.

[Vidu]

I can assure you that it isnt - its been a few years since I completed those quests but I do recall that I didnt had the finished and fully melded BiS-gear at this time.

This sounds more like you're not knowing the crafting-system and how to craft well enough, so I would dare to say that the difficulty is working as intended, as in showing you that you need to improve your "player"-skills instead of your character-skills. Ofcourse you could always just postpone the quests and keep leveling your cul and buy cheap vendor-gear in Heavensward areas for level 50+.
And after checking your lodestone-profile I would advice you to pay your GC a visit to invest some GC-seals into crafting-gear thats better than ilvl1-shoes without any crafting-stats at all.

From all your previous threads and posts you seem to be just learning the basics of crafting and gathering in this game. The system is actually fairly easy and once you hit max-level you'll be able to just use macros to craft whatever you want. But for now you shouldnt expect things to just fall in your lap without learning how the systems work.

Buying HQ-items should work by the way - are you sure you bought the correct stuff?

Edit: I also dont know much about WoW and the crafting-system there but if I'm not mistaken you can only pick up a limited amount of classes, right? Well, this isnt the case in FFXIV - specially for crafters and specially for crafters in ARR (but to an extend in HW and SB aswell, even though they tried to ease that a bit) you are basically required to make use of crossclass skills, aka you have to level up other crafting-jobs to get those vital skills. My advice would be to get every crafter at least to level 15 (should be easy enough) and at the very least carpenter to level 50 to get some basic skills that are pretty much required for crafting.
If you want to make a career as crafter (or even if you only want to be able to crafter for yourself) you WILL need every class at max level, not just for the skills but for the syngery aswell. Obviously you didnt notice this with cul, but most other crafters rely on each other for materials (weaver needs the leather the leatherworker makes and so on).

So while you can finish the quest with level appropriate gear (ilvl1 glamour-shoes are NOT level appropriate), getting the right crossclass skills aswell as an understanding of the crafting mechanics might even help more.
FFXIV-system is build on the idea that you level every crafting job - and while HW and SB added skills that allow single-job-crafting more easly, thats not really the way to go.

[SamSmoot]

And after checking your lodestone-profile I would advice you to pay your GC a visit to invest some GC-seals into crafting-gear thats better than ilvl1-shoes without any crafting-stats at all.

Thanks for this. I had forgotten about GC gear after it became obsolete for my DPS main. You just saved me many thousands of gil.

Buying HQ-items should work by the way - are you sure you bought the correct stuff?

It did work, After updating my gear and making one last item, I was able to turn it in. I was expecting some kind of progress indication as I obtained each item,and since nothing showed, I assumed that purchased items don't count (In WoW, you actually have to make the items required for profession quests.)

[StouterTaru]

In WoW, you actually have to make the items required for profession quests.

FFXIV started doing that with 4.0. When you hit the quests in the 60's the NPC will give you the materials, and you'll make an untradeable item to turn in.

[Vidu]

It did work, After updating my gear and making one last item, I was able to turn it in. I was expecting some kind of progress indication as I obtained each item,and since nothing showed, I assumed that purchased items don't count (In WoW, you actually have to make the items required for profession quests.)

For future references: Some quests work that way, specially those that require you to turn more than one item in. They will have a descriptive text, listing all the items you need, but they wont track which ones you got already.

[Caimie_Tsukino]

Trying the level 50 CUL quest. Need to make four HQ items. I've spent hours running around gathering HQ materials, and have used most of them without managing to make one HQ item. I guess the only option is to buy all new gear other than one reward item, then load them up with the best materia possible.
I've even tried buying completed HQ dishes, but they don't seem to count against it..

Crafting in WoW was mostly useless, but it's just torture here.

Hi SamSmoot, I took a quick look into your profile. You only have a level 22 Weaver and a level 50 CUL. That's definitely not recommended. In FFXIV, cross class skills = OP. The more cross class skills you have, the more powerful you are. The "ALL-15 Rule": even if you're not interested in any other crafting classes, you should still acquire level 15 for all 8 classes, as each one will give you a very strong cross class skill at level 15. Furthermore, it only takes about 10 minutes' work to get 1 class to level 15 (using resting bonus, FC buff and food to gain extra EXP) (and all the mats are cheaply available from FC house vendor or city vendors). But it will make your path of leveling from lvl 15-50 a hundred times easier. In fact, a good number of these skills are STILL being used for level 70s. You can see how important they are.

However, even without any cross class skills, CUL is still the one class that is the most capable of being a "single crafting class". So my guess is that you may not be utilizing your basic crafting skills correctly, especially using Inner Quiet and Hasty Touch to build up IQ stacks for a finisher phase using a buffed Advanced Touch. Keep in mind that you should not be using Master's Mend for a 70 or 80 durab item, as it is the least CP-efficient skill of all in your arsenal.

All in all, I don't think you have been doing it correctly... which would have made it extremely difficult and not as fun. It would help us to help you troubleshoot if you can let us know what actions and rotation you have been using. We can then guide you back to the right direction.

[Windsun33]

He does have one good point. On the last BSM quest I did it required an HQ hammer. The reward - the SAME hammer in NQ...

[Caimie_Tsukino]

He does have one good point. On the last BSM quest I did it required an HQ hammer. The reward - the SAME hammer in NQ...

I actually find things like this sarcastically funny... I remember crafting an HQ bow for my archer just so I could complete my class quest for the Archer Guild Master. He then gave me an NQ bow. Luckily, there was a Carpenter class quest which needed only an NQ bow, so I submitted the NQ bow to the Carpenter Guild Master, and I kept the HQ one for myself... Well, so yeah, things like this happen with DoW too...

[Iscah]

For all job quests (not just crafters) that give you free weapons/tools, they are quite often overstocked and cheap on the marketboard as a result - so if that's the case, you can buy the tool, do the quest and then sell the second copy of it back to the marketboard. Then as long as there's a constant number of people leveling that class, it just becomes a rolling cycle of each person buying the previous person's quest-reward tool.