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    Player
    Dyvid's Avatar
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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Adamantoise
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    Blacksmith Lv 90
    Welcome to 2019!
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    Lolola Lola
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    Diabolos
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    Astrologian Lv 90
    People threaten to report me but nothing has ever happened, before or after the ToS change.
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    Xant'cha Argoth
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    Excalibur
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    Arcanist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SleepyNeko View Post
    If someone tells you to leave them alone then you should leave them alone. If you don't like them in the group either kick them or leave yourself. As a sprout doing a raid for the first time you usually don't have time to worry about others and there is no need to enforce your playstyle on them.

    Is it nice if they can tank swap if you made too many mistakes? Yes, but there is no need to.
    Is it nice if they can cover you for a TB? Again yes but also you can clear the content without it.

    You said that you are a sprout and he is also a sprout, but he isn't the one that is asking you to do all these things. You might be a better sprout than he is but that doesn't mean he has to be at your level.

    You should've just backed off after he said he doesn't want to engage to talk with you, especially since you are ganging up on him with numbers.

    Not saying you needed to carry him though, just kick or leave instead of harassing him. Yes it is harassment even though you said you were "asking" him if he knew his abilities, it can be interpreted as "Do you even know how to play?"
    I couldn't disagree more if you can't do simple mechanics by lvl 70 you have no right to be mad if you get called out. If people just want the story and don't care about playing right they should go to YouTube and not expect others to put up with their bull
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    Chocola Puddin
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    Typhon
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by spf1200 View Post
    I couldn't disagree more if you can't do simple mechanics by lvl 70 you have no right to be mad if you get called out. If people just want the story and don't care about playing right they should go to YouTube and not expect others to put up with their bull
    I'm not saying you have to put up with their Bull, you can just leave or kick them instead of verbally harassing them.
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    Michael Stark
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    Paladin Lv 90
    anybody in the world can report anybody else for anything...

    that doesn't mean it's gonna take.
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by whodis View Post
    "If i get 2 vulnerability stacks, swap with me"
    Don't worry about this. All content in the game can be tanked without tank stance; most of it comfortably, thus you can just slap on tank stance to make up for the vuln stacks, and slap on rampart if you're still hurting. You can double up on that by using self-heals if the healers are having trouble. Apply cooldowns and mitigations proportionate to the stack size, especially during a tankbuster.

    Quote Originally Posted by whodis View Post
    i ask the OT if he knows how to cover a tankbuster, to which they respond "no".

    Again, i'm fine with this, so i ask him another question: "Do you have any defense ability you can use on someone?"
    A lot of paladins I've encountered in dungeons, even low level ones, have used Cover effectively and creatively in appropriate situations. But it is nevertheless something you have to train yourself to do instinctively so that your first thought in that split second moment is Cover and not something else. It's not worth expecting a PUG paladin to have done that and pressuring them about it in casual content that is not high-end. If they cover you they do, otherwise they don't and you find your own solution until they do.

    Quote Originally Posted by whodis View Post
    This is when things start getting even funnier and they say "Dude, i'm a sprout" to which i answer "So am i" then, someone on our team said "I mean, you're level 70" and after him saying "i don't care about the game i only want the story", our teammate says "still..." to which they respond with "stop this harassment, i am getting annoyed", we keep talking and i ask them "how is that harassment?" and our teammate tells him that we just wanted to know if he knew his abilities.
    They told everyone clearly they were just in it for the story and don't care for being a top-tier player. That was an excellent moment to accept that, drop it and leave them be. For people to persist with "still..." and "how is that harassment?" is just perpetuating the situation and unnecessarily adding fuel to a fire.

    Quote Originally Posted by whodis View Post
    It baffles me how someone is in Alphascape v2.0 without knowing any of the basic stuff, basically holding us, teammembers, hostage, carrying deadweight, and then have the audacity to say we're harassing them when we are ACTUALLY trying to HELP them.
    You hardly need to know how to use Cover or Intervention to clear Alphascape v2.0 as the OT. The MT can handle the whole thing on their own, including the dragon.

    In Stormblood every tank has a mitigation that uses their gauge which they can apply on a far more regular basis than other cooldowns: Sheltron, The Blackest Night and Inner Beast.
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    Korbin Dallas
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    Twintania
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    Scholar Lv 80
    Welcome to FF14, where the playerbase is so coddled that you can't even breathe without offending someone and being reported for it.
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    Aelin Alvered
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    Zalera
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    Warrior Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by whodis View Post
    EDIT: When i first heard on how some people were super sensitive in this game, i thought it was just a meme, a joke, or just a myth. It turns out these people do exist. It saddens me deeply that i was trying to help this person actually be better, only to get hit by their passive-aggressiveness and claims that i'm harassing them!

    I got a report for pointing out that Omega probably wasn't trans but clearly changed between sexes, and well, the fact that it was an android.
    Luckily didn't get a ban, but it goes to say that people ARE sensitive nowadays and the new ToS doesn't help the ones that actually get reported due to petty reasons.

    Luckily neither of us got banned, so I still have faith in the GMs, but yeah.
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    Nytemare Legion
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    Behemoth
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    Marauder Lv 54
    Im a sprout tank and make sprout mistakes. Some people are helpful with advice while others will do the "OmG OmG!! I dont mean to be a dick but its not rocket science." I apologize for my noobery and I blacklist that guy, problem solved.
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    Last Hero
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    Coeurl
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    Thaumaturge Lv 90
    It sounds like a little more happened than just '2 questions', but you unfortunately did end up in a dungeon with someone who was really just here for the story. Unless it was savage level content, I can't say that I really blame him all that much for getting irritated. When you go into the duty finder you roll the dice and can get all kinds of different people. From his point of view, he probably thought you were singling him out. It doesn't help that we don't get to have private conversations in dungeons (a massively, MASSIVELY bad design decision on the part of the devs). If we could have private conversations, things like this would be an issue less often because we wouldn't have to put everything in party or alliance chat.

    It's hard to know whether or not you really were as polite as you're portraying here, since you did feel the need to come here and complain to begin with, but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Sometimes when you offer unsolicited advice you run afoul of the ToS. Stick to helping people who ask for it.

    The rest?

    Well, you have an option to eject folks from a duty and SE has upheld time and again that 'differing playstyles' is a valid reason.
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