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  1. #21
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    Gula's Avatar
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    Krystal Abyss
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    Mateus
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    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    Or the report ended up in the hands of GM who used irrational judgement. This is, of course, assuming that was all that was being said verbatim without anything else being left out (because that usually happens) and your hands wasn't caught in cookie jar while you were being investigated (which also tends to happen).

    I've said more or less the same thing many times, told I was going to be reported. Nothing happened. Maybe they didn't do it. Maybe they did and if it did, then clearly the GM at the time rolled his eyes and thrashed the report.
    I wonder what's the GM hiring process. What quality check, if any, to find people who wont side with someone else because of race/class/play style. Because I've seen some ban worthy content and the players are still just as active as ever.

    This has always been a worry of mine when dealing with people in game who treat the chat like a private discord. Especially in NN when I try to express that the NN is not the place to talk about your fetishes and said people claw back with "No fun allowed." If it's a vote kick against me for telling them they should please stop, then that strike is against me.
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  2. #22
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    SleepyNeko's Avatar
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    Chocola Puddin
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    Typhon
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    If someone tells you to leave them alone then you should leave them alone. If you don't like them in the group either kick them or leave yourself. As a sprout doing a raid for the first time you usually don't have time to worry about others and there is no need to enforce your playstyle on them.

    Is it nice if they can tank swap if you made too many mistakes? Yes, but there is no need to.
    Is it nice if they can cover you for a TB? Again yes but also you can clear the content without it.

    You said that you are a sprout and he is also a sprout, but he isn't the one that is asking you to do all these things. You might be a better sprout than he is but that doesn't mean he has to be at your level.

    You should've just backed off after he said he doesn't want to engage to talk with you, especially since you are ganging up on him with numbers.

    Not saying you needed to carry him though, just kick or leave instead of harassing him. Yes it is harassment even though you said you were "asking" him if he knew his abilities, it can be interpreted as "Do you even know how to play?"
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    Last edited by SleepyNeko; 05-07-2019 at 07:32 AM.

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    Dyvid Pandemonium
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    Welcome to 2019!
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  4. #24
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    Lolola Lola
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    Diabolos
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    People threaten to report me but nothing has ever happened, before or after the ToS change.
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    Xant'cha Argoth
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    Quote Originally Posted by SleepyNeko View Post
    If someone tells you to leave them alone then you should leave them alone. If you don't like them in the group either kick them or leave yourself. As a sprout doing a raid for the first time you usually don't have time to worry about others and there is no need to enforce your playstyle on them.

    Is it nice if they can tank swap if you made too many mistakes? Yes, but there is no need to.
    Is it nice if they can cover you for a TB? Again yes but also you can clear the content without it.

    You said that you are a sprout and he is also a sprout, but he isn't the one that is asking you to do all these things. You might be a better sprout than he is but that doesn't mean he has to be at your level.

    You should've just backed off after he said he doesn't want to engage to talk with you, especially since you are ganging up on him with numbers.

    Not saying you needed to carry him though, just kick or leave instead of harassing him. Yes it is harassment even though you said you were "asking" him if he knew his abilities, it can be interpreted as "Do you even know how to play?"
    I couldn't disagree more if you can't do simple mechanics by lvl 70 you have no right to be mad if you get called out. If people just want the story and don't care about playing right they should go to YouTube and not expect others to put up with their bull
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  6. #26
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    Nebula Starsong
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    Faerie
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    Quote Originally Posted by SleepyNeko View Post
    If someone tells you to leave them alone then you should leave them alone. If you don't like them in the group either kick them or leave yourself. As a sprout doing a raid for the first time you usually don't have time to worry about others and there is no need to enforce your playstyle on them.

    Is it nice if they can tank swap if you made too many mistakes? Yes, but there is no need to.
    Is it nice if they can cover you for a TB? Again yes but also you can clear the content without it.

    You said that you are a sprout and he is also a sprout, but he isn't the one that is asking you to do all these things. You might be a better sprout than he is but that doesn't mean he has to be at your level.

    You should've just backed off after he said he doesn't want to engage to talk with you, especially since you are ganging up on him with numbers.

    Not saying you needed to carry him though, just kick or leave instead of harassing him. Yes it is harassment even though you said you were "asking" him if he knew his abilities, it can be interpreted as "Do you even know how to play?"


    As a healer, you need to ask questions and be able to adjust, so communicating with the tank is very valuable.
    If the tank is new, you need to adjust to them and ensure that they live through, because you're the groups Mender,
    what do you mean? If the tank don't even know how to play the dungeon, how is this something bad to do at all? This is ridiculous.
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    Buzzwords's Avatar
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    Michael Stark
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    Paladin Lv 90
    anybody in the world can report anybody else for anything...

    that doesn't mean it's gonna take.
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  8. #28
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    Chocola Puddin
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    Typhon
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    Quote Originally Posted by spf1200 View Post
    I couldn't disagree more if you can't do simple mechanics by lvl 70 you have no right to be mad if you get called out. If people just want the story and don't care about playing right they should go to YouTube and not expect others to put up with their bull
    I'm not saying you have to put up with their Bull, you can just leave or kick them instead of verbally harassing them.
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  9. #29
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    Quote Originally Posted by NebulaStarsong View Post
    As a healer, you need to ask questions and be able to adjust, so communicating with the tank is very valuable.
    If the tank is new, you need to adjust to them and ensure that they live through, because you're the groups Mender,
    what do you mean? If the tank don't even know how to play the dungeon, how is this something bad to do at all? This is ridiculous.
    Nothing wrong with asking questions and having a dialogue, however the tank doesn't want a dialogue so you either leave or kick or put up with it. Harassing the dude doesn't help anything.
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  10. #30
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Quote Originally Posted by whodis View Post
    "If i get 2 vulnerability stacks, swap with me"
    Don't worry about this. All content in the game can be tanked without tank stance; most of it comfortably, thus you can just slap on tank stance to make up for the vuln stacks, and slap on rampart if you're still hurting. You can double up on that by using self-heals if the healers are having trouble. Apply cooldowns and mitigations proportionate to the stack size, especially during a tankbuster.

    Quote Originally Posted by whodis View Post
    i ask the OT if he knows how to cover a tankbuster, to which they respond "no".

    Again, i'm fine with this, so i ask him another question: "Do you have any defense ability you can use on someone?"
    A lot of paladins I've encountered in dungeons, even low level ones, have used Cover effectively and creatively in appropriate situations. But it is nevertheless something you have to train yourself to do instinctively so that your first thought in that split second moment is Cover and not something else. It's not worth expecting a PUG paladin to have done that and pressuring them about it in casual content that is not high-end. If they cover you they do, otherwise they don't and you find your own solution until they do.

    Quote Originally Posted by whodis View Post
    This is when things start getting even funnier and they say "Dude, i'm a sprout" to which i answer "So am i" then, someone on our team said "I mean, you're level 70" and after him saying "i don't care about the game i only want the story", our teammate says "still..." to which they respond with "stop this harassment, i am getting annoyed", we keep talking and i ask them "how is that harassment?" and our teammate tells him that we just wanted to know if he knew his abilities.
    They told everyone clearly they were just in it for the story and don't care for being a top-tier player. That was an excellent moment to accept that, drop it and leave them be. For people to persist with "still..." and "how is that harassment?" is just perpetuating the situation and unnecessarily adding fuel to a fire.

    Quote Originally Posted by whodis View Post
    It baffles me how someone is in Alphascape v2.0 without knowing any of the basic stuff, basically holding us, teammembers, hostage, carrying deadweight, and then have the audacity to say we're harassing them when we are ACTUALLY trying to HELP them.
    You hardly need to know how to use Cover or Intervention to clear Alphascape v2.0 as the OT. The MT can handle the whole thing on their own, including the dragon.

    In Stormblood every tank has a mitigation that uses their gauge which they can apply on a far more regular basis than other cooldowns: Sheltron, The Blackest Night and Inner Beast.
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