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    Quote Originally Posted by Pywalli View Post
    I just don't understand why you pay for a game and just play 10% just why ?

    "ideal world" for 5% of the new player ? Even if everybody was ok to just delete MSQ SE will not work for that.

    And i'm sorry but the game you want is not FF14. FF14 work with MSQ gate. It's a mmoJrpg

    I think you are a Wow refugee and you want a game as close as you know. But no FF14 is FF14 it worked like that and since FF14 increase it's player base that's not gonna change sorry
    You are right it probably will not change, but enlighten me since I am still mixed messages, no one has made the suggestion to delete the MSQ the suggestion is to simply make it optional that does not mean delete.

    In the end I do not understand the fear of making it optional, do people feel if SE made it optional they would care less about the story? That does not nesserely have to be the case.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pywalli View Post
    And that's why there is so much prob out there. "There's people out there who honestly just want the raiding" but this game is not for that, the comu already hate the skip books .I don't rly care about ppl who just want the end game content but the fact they want too change the game is not welcolme by most. FF14 work with MSQ gate since is released ppl come and stay with this systeme and like it.
    Who are you to say what this game is for, or not? Just because you like a certain thing, and play it for that certain thing does not mean that there are thousands more who play it the way they like. There are people who only play this game for crafting. Different people like different aspects of this game, saying the game is not for them, or not for that is a ridiculous, and arrogant, assumption to make.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pywalli View Post
    And that's why there is so much prob out there. "There's people out there who honestly just want the raiding" but this game is not for that, the comu already hate the skip books .I don't rly care about ppl who just want the end game content but the fact they want too change the game is not welcolme by most. FF14 work with MSQ gate since is released ppl come and stay with this systeme and like it.
    The only problem here are the people who are trying to tell people that don't like certain parts of the game that this game is not for them. You don't care about people that just want to do the endgame? But its ok if said people write guides, explain things or carry you through said end game content, right? It is true that this game has always been like this but that doesn't mean that people have no right to say that they don't like it this way and it also doesn't give you or anyone else to pile your hatred on them.
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    Good talk, all. Glad we had it.
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    I think it is really important to not remove the MSQ aspect of this game. I have a lot of confidence that those who love the story this game provides don't have anything to worry about in that regard.

    I also think it's fair that as paid subscribers, you are allowed to play the game the way you want to. A lot, and I do mean a lot of stuff is gated behind MSQ progression. I am a pacifist. I could quite literally spend all of my days in this game doing nothing but gathering, fishing, gardening, and crafting. However, complete access to all the zones and flight is gated, so I have to fight. It's a really good thing I do enjoy the story, am a bit of a completionist, and all content outside savage/ultimate is not so difficult that I can't heal them in confidence. If this was not the case, this mmo would sadly not be for me.

    At the core of the matter, it comes down to your own enjoyment. If you enjoy this mmo then ride it out as long as that enjoyment remains, or the game's servers remain alive. I highly recommend to stop worrying about the enjoyment of veterans and new subscribers alike. This is something outside your control, and it is for SE to worry about. Instead, play with the veterans and help the new players. That is something in your control that will give longevity to the game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    saying the game is not for them, or not for that is a ridiculous, and arrogant, assumption to make.
    I say it's like that because it's like that.

    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    There are people who only play this game for crafting.
    And you know what there are also story for that and a good one for each job

    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    that is a ridiculous, and arrogant, assumption to make.
    You need to stop say things like that. it's not good for you and for what you want to say.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pywalli View Post
    I say it's like that because it's like that.



    And you know what there are also story for that and a good one for each job



    You need to stop say things like that. it's not good for you and for what you want to say.
    I encourage you to start a thread, on here or reddit, or anywhere really with an FF following, ask what their favorite aspect of this game is. Come back and tell me how diverse the responses were. I'll wait.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilan View Post
    The only problem here are the people who are trying to tell people that don't like certain parts of the game that this game is not for them. You don't care about people that just want to do the endgame? But its ok if said people write guides, explain things or carry you through said end game content, right? It is true that this game has always been like this but that doesn't mean that people have no right to say that they don't like it this way and it also doesn't give you or anyone else to pile your hatred on them.
    Like i said i don't care what ppl do or want to do. each things i explain was not my thought but what is happening right now.
    And if you want to know i have never watch a guide
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I encourage you to start a thread, on here or reddit, or anywhere really with an FF following, ask what their favorite aspect of this game is. Come back and tell me how diverse the responses were. I'll wait.
    The person asking for proof should be the one seeking them and not the other person giving them.

    It's basics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I encourage you to start a thread, on here or reddit, or anywhere really with an FF following, ask what their favorite aspect of this game is. Come back and tell me how diverse the responses were. I'll wait.
    Why you don't do it.

    It's IN the game.Every things you do is related to a quest related to a quest related to a quest who is related to a quest related to a chara from MSQ. They said it, every quest is at some point related to another. This is why we have an encyclopedia.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    make it optional that does not mean delete.
    it was an expl "the worst"

    Quote Originally Posted by Awha View Post
    In the end I do not understand the fear of making it optional, do people feel if SE made it optional they would care less about the story? That does not nesserely have to be the case.
    FF14 is based on MSQ. When the V1 end in 2012 it was MSQ and whan ff14ARR come it was MSQ. If SE changed that that mean the foundation of the game change. This is why ppl are so afraid of something that's gonna never happen. I think.
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