Dev team, please do not remove the importance of the MSQ

[LyraKuroneko]

Really, historical story should be optional. There is nothing so crucial to playing the game in there that there is any reason to gate future content behind it.

This is a FF and not your random sandbox F2P game. Remember that.

Story isn't optional in this series wether you like it or not. Story shouldn't be optional because you don't like it.

If people don't like the way FF games are around story, maybe those persons should consider other games really.

Don't try to change a series because it isn't to your liking ty.

[AxlStream]

Not like new game + is coming for those that would like to relive the story... or that used a jump potion...

[Skivvy]

This is a FF and not your random sandbox F2P game. Remember that.

Story isn't optional in this series wether you like it or not. Story shouldn't be optional because you don't like it.

If people don't like the way FF games are around story, maybe those persons should consider other games really.

Don't try to change a series because it isn't to your liking ty.

How do you explain XI in that case? Last I checked that is also in the Final Fantasy series, and they didn't force the entire story on you.

[LyraKuroneko]

How do you explain XI in that case? Last I checked that is also in the Final Fantasy series, and they didn't force the entire story on you.

I tried it the other day with only 2 explansion on it. And several cs was "forced" onto me when I stepped in a zone.

It was weird for some part because I could do all at the same time, not knowing who was who ans behing introduce to some of the NPC later while I know them in another xpac.

But if I just take the base game, you still have cs and things "forced'' to you. And I tried this game to see what the story was like in the 1st place.

Also from what I read from the guides, there is tons of things loked if you don't prog the story. So it's not that different.

[linay]

Why? What benefit does this offer? Does this make the player somehow better at the game?

The story isn't great. There, I said it. Most of it is derivative (wait til you see shadowbringers! We've totally never seen this concept before!) and some of it is downright offensive. I remember one of our buddy npcs saying something like "I want to stay here and learn more about these people" and I was literally screaming at my monitor "I don't!" But I had to, because SE deemed it important for me to play through the storyline of a sexist faction in this xpac. I gained absolutely nothing of value from that story and it only served to deepen my disdain for the dev team's stance on a lot of things in general.

Really, historical story should be optional. There is nothing so crucial to playing the game in there that there is any reason to gate future content behind it.

The entire game is optional. You don't have to play it if you don't want to.

Meanwhile, I like having a story, and if the dev starts making stories optional, I fear it's a slippery slope that will end up like WoW where there can be a raid that's just there without any story behind why you're there (Uldir for Alliance in BfA expansion). So, no thanks, I'd rather they keep trying to write stories for every content in the game, and if you don't want to experience it, wait until there is a boost to skip past it or don't play it at all if you have a disdain for things that are in the game. Again, it's just a video game, so it's all optional.

[Miles064]

The entire game is optional. You don't have to play it if you don't want to.

Meanwhile, I like having a story, and if the dev starts making stories optional, I fear it's a slippery slope that will end up like WoW where there can be a raid that's just there without any story behind why you're there (Uldir for Alliance in BfA expansion). So, no thanks, I'd rather they keep trying to write stories for every content in the game, and if you don't want to experience it, wait until there is a boost to skip past it or don't play it at all if you have a disdain for things that are in the game. Again, it's just a video game, so it's all optional.

The Alliance didnt have a story for Uldir because Uldir was a Horde story. Uldir's story was pretty much the end of most of the Hordes leveling story. I stopped playing some time ago but I would assume the raid with the queen will be Alliance centered from the fact allys were the ones that dealt the most with it(stormsong vally comes to mind). Pretty much every dungeon I can think of in wow had a story that started outside of the dungeon and lead you to completing that dungeon too. Those stories just were not mandatory to go into them. All that story is there for those that care, but can be skipped for those that dont.

Keep the lvling story mandatory for ff14 but let players skip the max lvl stuff for past expac to go into the next ones lvling story imo. If you really want to know what happened in between, then it is still there to be completed and the rewards can still be gotten. For the current expac, leave it how it is with dungeons,raids,trials, etc being unlocked with the quests.

[Pywalli]

A new player has to go through 150+ hours of fedexing that crap to even get to anything moderately ok. And yes, pray return to the waking sands is a meme for a reason. It's a crappy fedex msq.

*note: 150 hours of crappy fedexing is pretty much not even playing the game. That's wasting time between cutscenes or overnerfed, outdated content.

150H HOW ? With 100h afk ?

MSQ optional.

try Mapple story 1

[linay]

The Alliance didnt have a story for Uldir because Uldir was a Horde story. Uldir's story was pretty much the end of most of the Hordes leveling story. I stopped playing some time ago but I would assume the raid with the queen will be Alliance centered from the fact allys were the ones that dealt the most with it(stormsong vally comes to mind). Pretty much every dungeon I can think of in wow had a story that started outside of the dungeon and lead you to completing that dungeon too. Those stories just were not mandatory to go into them. All that story is there for those that care, but can be skipped for those that dont.

And yet it's still a raid content for the Alliance, not just Horde.

And I hate the fact that stories are not required for dungeons and raids, especially when you get part of the story in the dungeon/raid itself. Even worse, the stories for the dungeons/raids are not even mandatory for zone/faction story completion, which means the story itself is broken because you can literally skip parts of it, especially if you missed out when it's current content.

And from what I can tell, the reason why they're not mandatory is because WoW players complain about being forced to do dungeons/raids. So while people here say stories should be separated from dungeons/raids because people just want to play MMO, people in WoW are saying they should be separated because they don't want to play with other people in PVE, lol.

Keep the lvling story mandatory for ff14 but let players skip the max lvl stuff for past expac to go into the next ones lvling story imo. If you really want to know what happened in between, then it is still there to be completed and the rewards can still be gotten. For the current expac, leave it how it is with dungeons,raids,trials, etc being unlocked with the quests.

The problem with that is when you get situations like in WoW where things break because the quests are not connected. I missed out on Legion, but because I wanted to unlock some allied races, I had to do Legion content and I had to search around for what I needed to do and sometimes the information is out of date because it assumes you're playing while it's current content and not after the fact and going back.

With FFXIV, every quest is connected nicely for the most part, and it'll stay that way regardless when you start playing or when you unlock that particular content barring some notable changes like Crystal Tower raid unlock, which the company would then send out a notice announcing the change.

I much prefer FFXIV's way where contents stay largely the same after it's put in the game and quests are connected nicely for the most part.

[AnnaRosa]

I’ve been seeing a lot of posts lately with people saying the story requirement be removed from raids and duties. Please don’t do this. This is one of the main reasons why I play the game, I love how everything is connected, I love seeing story elements all the way back in 2.0 still be relevant for the game today, I love going into dungeons and raids and trials and participating and having an active role in the events of the story. This is one of the main draws of the game for, please don’t take it away.

Ofc the MSQ is the way to know the MMO lore and is a way to publicize the FF games to remove would take the chance of one player to know the fantasy world and decide if they should continue or not its where you decide if is yours kind of MMO or not.

They even introduced a New Game + feature to allow high level players to redo all MSQ quests with the lowest levels characters of their player friends so to give them same chance to know the story.