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  1. #221
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    MarniDawg's Avatar
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    Seefa Corgine
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    After reading many of these posts it seems to me the salt is over the fact that someone has to pay money for a skip potion instead of getting it free...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nyvara View Post
    Along these lines I have brought a few friends over who all had the same opinions.
    New player experience sucks if you're desperate to get to the end game or really hate reading :P
    I agree with you, skipping is bad as F, i dont mind straight linear forward game for honest i keep play final fantasy realm reborn just because from start of age gaming squaresoft games on my console and love every one of them.
    * feeling nostalgic *
    Secrets of mana, Final fantasy and so on. ♥
    Just saying that this isnt a sandbox game alright.
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    The name of the game is FINAL FANTASY XIV right there in the title. New Players should come in knowing there is an actual story to the leveling process and that it will be different from other MMOs that just drop you off in the intro area after a quick introduction to collect quests that say ey go over into them woods and kill the things and leave you to that until you hit the last tiers of leveling where you hit those new quests with no sense of accomplishment or no understanding of what happened when you switched into a new leveling zone. Each quest in the story progression builds from the last, building up the player understanding of the world and why they're doing what they're doing. Each great accomplishment letting you move farther and farther along and eventually accumulating into the final act (for the time) of the story arc where you're at.And then you're going about after those continuing to press changes in the wake of the upheaval you were front and center for.

    Do some people like it? No not at all these are the self same people that like quick gratification and have no sense that small incremental progress is kind of a key to life as well. However that small percentage does not even come close to representing the far bigger majority that do enjoy it, and savour it ,and learn from it, growing even as the game does. it is the majority that enjoy it that are silent because they have better things to do than come into the forums and nitpick every single thing they find wrong with something. They're out there either enjoying Eorzea or doing the grand adventure of Real Life.
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    "Sometimes I wonder I heal for fun. or if I heal because I'm a glutton for punishment."

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    and listening to amazing sick music while surf around the webb the network and ofcs this forum for fun
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  5. #225
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    LCROSSE's Avatar
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    Lindzei Reed
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    Why does everyone treat this game like endgame is the only thing there is? This is a story-driven game and jumping to the latest expansion would only serve to confuse you and make you wish you hadn't. Assuming you care about the story at all, and if not then why bother playing the game?
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  6. #226
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    Quote Originally Posted by LCROSSE View Post
    Why does everyone treat this game like endgame is the only thing there is? This is a story-drivdn gsme and jumping to the latest expansion would only serve to confuse you and make you wish you hadn't.
    2/5 people i play with at 70 have never read the story and rarely watch a cutscene.

    No one is saying they should go endgame, just that msq is too hardcore of a gate the more time passes. To the point that on boarding friends/returning players doesnt work as well.
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  7. #227
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    Quote Originally Posted by LCROSSE View Post
    Why does everyone treat this game like endgame is the only thing there is? This is a story-driven game and jumping to the latest expansion would only serve to confuse you and make you wish you hadn't. Assuming you care about the story at all, and if not then why bother playing the game?
    This is just an MMO with a forced MSQ. Another game I can think of that has A LOT of story is GW2, but you aren't trapped from doing content until you've cleared all of it. There are better ways for SE to handle their story.

    And again with the "If you don't like the story, why bother playing" comment. This is one of the stupidest arguments, you people need to stop. If this game only has the story to offer, what do you all do once you finish it up?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MarniDawg View Post
    After reading many of these posts it seems to me the salt is over the fact that someone has to pay money for a skip potion instead of getting it free...
    I mean to be fair, a new player has to cough up 50 USD in order to do a proper skip. It doesn't even skip you to the end either. A little bit of sodium is warranted I think.
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  9. #229
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Playing with a friend of mine, returner from ARR content, I can already feel how demoralized he is trying to catch up in time.
    I just lvled up an alt from 1 to 50 in two days this week. You can easily get to 70 in two weeks. ShB is still two months away. They have plenty of time.

    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    They feel like they are just wasting time.
    If they feel like playing through the story and learning the game as intended is a waste of time, then I don't think this game is for them.

    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I think there needs to be something in place, to alleviate this feeling. In WoW a new player has a boost, but can reach the relevant (expansion) content, and can go back and do older content at their own leisure.
    Or they could...play the game from lvl 1? Also as others said New Game+ is coming in ShB, so that will sort that particular issue out.

    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    The more expansions and story content, added just make this worse, and worse.
    I know quite a few new players who loved that there was a huge amount of story for them to get through. They had a blast going through the content from 1 - 70. The issue isn't that there is too much content. The issue is players being too impatient.

    Sure some quests need to be streamlined but to imply that boost are necessary is just condoning impatience.
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  10. #230
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    I just lvled up an alt from 1 to 50 in two days this week. You can easily get to 70 in two weeks. ShB is still two months away. They have plenty of time.



    If they feel like playing through the story and learning the game as intended is a waste of time, then I don't think this game is for them.



    Or they could...play the game from lvl 1? Also as others said New Game+ is coming in ShB, so that will sort that particular issue out.



    I know quite a few new players who loved that there was a huge amount of story for them to get through. They had a blast going through the content from 1 - 70. The issue isn't that there is too much content. The issue is players being too impatient.

    Sure some quests need to be streamlined but to imply that boost are necessary is just condoning impatience.
    just because some people like story means people who dont should spend hours skipping all of it.

    im not sure why you guys think there is benefit in forcing those who dont want to do story to do story.

    no one is saying remove story, just make a way out for those who dont want to do it.
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