New Player Experience Sucks! - Impending Expansion Problems

[SturmChurro]

Playing with a friend of mine, returner from ARR content, I can already feel how demoralized he is trying to catch up in time. To actually reach relevant content he has to go through a backlog of slog, and I have a feeling he never will actually reach the content that he has paid for, and I have a feeling a lot of new players have the same point of view, and will also never likely reach content in time (without paying for a skip) to actually play the new expansion. I do not think a skip is a good thing, not only for the intimidating price, but because these players cannot go back and do the story any longer, I would assume (I have never actually used one).

They feel like they are just wasting time. I think there needs to be something in place, to alleviate this feeling. In WoW a new player has a boost, but can reach the relevant (expansion) content, and can go back and do older content at their own leisure. Granted, FF is very story based, and centered around your character (WoL). I think a way to go back and do the old story content (expansions) to catch up and do later would be a good way to get players to relevant content, and keep them playing the game, while being able to go back and do the story content when they want to, so they don't miss out, and can get the full context of the latest story arch.

The more expansions and story content, added just make this worse, and worse.

[Aristotle]

If you don't like the idea of a skip potion, what is it exactly you are proposing they do to fix this, if not allow players to skip content? Or is it just the fact that you have to pay for it?

[SturmChurro]

If you don't like the idea of a skip potion, what is it exactly you are proposing they do to fix this, if not allow players to skip content? Or is it just the fact that you have to pay for it?

You are missing the entire point. The problem with a skip potion, particularly for a new, or returning player is that you literally 'skip' all of that previous content without being able to go back and do it. Not only that it is completely unsustainable, and yes, the price. You are asking a new player to spend 30-50 dollars on an expansion then another 25 to skip content that they JUST paid for, just to be able to play relevant content with their friend, and if they don't they have to spend probably a hundred hours (if they actually want to do the content) getting to the latest expansion. I am not even thinking about a new player being power leveled through, I am thinking broadly, and to discount an opinion based on the idea I'm cheap, that is another problem.

[RicaRuin]

Skip potion and then replay the MSQ later with New Game+.

[Jandor]

You are missing the entire point. The problem with a skip potion, particularly for a new, or returning player is that you literally 'skip' all of that previous content without being able to go back and do it.

They are sorting this out with Shadowbringers, it'll have a new game + feature so you can go back and redo the story without starting over.

[SturmChurro]

They are sorting this out with Shadowbringers, it'll have a new game + feature so you can go back and redo the story without starting over.

Does a new player receive a free skip potion or do they also have to pay 25 dollars to get to it?

However, if they did receive a free 'skip', I wouldn't want them to receive any rewards. In a perfect world I'd like it to be like them going through the content for the first time.

[RicaRuin]

Does a new player receive a free skip potion or do they also have to pay 25 dollars to get to it?

However, if they did receive a free 'skip', I wouldn't want them to receive any rewards. In a perfect world I'd like it to be like them going through the content for the first time.

Still gotta pay for it.

Also, need more than 25 dollars, as you'd need both the MSQ skip and the Level Boost.

[LalaRu]

If people stops talking for their cousin, friend, or cat, will be nice.

If your cat doesn't meowlike something, he can go here in forum and discuss.

[Jandor]

Still gotta pay for it.

Also, need more than 25 dollars, as you'd need both the MSQ skip and the Level Boost.

Could just story skip and spend an evening in PotD. I certainly wouldn't pay for level skip when getting to 60 is so easy.

[SturmChurro]

If people stops talking for their cousin, friend, or cat, will be nice.

If your cat doesn't meowlike something, he can go here in forum and discuss.

Oh yeah, I'm sure I'm just making this up. Get real.

Still gotta pay for it.

Also, need more than 25 dollars, as you'd need both the MSQ skip and the Level Boost.

Oh yeah, I forgot about that. So you would be paying like as much for the game for one level skip/story skip.

Could just story skip and spend an evening in PotD. I certainly wouldn't pay for level skip when getting to 60 is so easy.

It would be more than an evening. If a new player would even know to do that.