New Player Experience Sucks! - Impending Expansion Problems

[Penthea]

There is an absurd amount of forced MSQ that people must do before they can get into current content, and that's going to turn off a lot of people.

But even if the msq didn't exist you couldn't jump straight in to current content anyway. You still have to lvl up. You still have to gear up. The only times it blocks you is at 50 and 60, but you benefit greatly from the gear those quests give you so it's not as if it's actually a waste of time. Sure you could use vendor gear but it's not very good and you can feel it when a tank or healer is using it.

The only thing "absurd" about the msq is some of the utterly needless back and forth quests in the lvl 50 section. With that streamlined it would be fine. The 60 section is fine.

[Penthea]

Playing with a friend of mine, returner from ARR content, I can already feel how demoralized he is trying to catch up in time.

I just lvled up an alt from 1 to 50 in two days this week. You can easily get to 70 in two weeks. ShB is still two months away. They have plenty of time.

They feel like they are just wasting time.

If they feel like playing through the story and learning the game as intended is a waste of time, then I don't think this game is for them.

I think there needs to be something in place, to alleviate this feeling. In WoW a new player has a boost, but can reach the relevant (expansion) content, and can go back and do older content at their own leisure.

Or they could...play the game from lvl 1? Also as others said New Game+ is coming in ShB, so that will sort that particular issue out.

The more expansions and story content, added just make this worse, and worse.

I know quite a few new players who loved that there was a huge amount of story for them to get through. They had a blast going through the content from 1 - 70. The issue isn't that there is too much content. The issue is players being too impatient.

Sure some quests need to be streamlined but to imply that boost are necessary is just condoning impatience.

[Physic]

I just lvled up an alt from 1 to 50 in two days this week. You can easily get to 70 in two weeks. ShB is still two months away. They have plenty of time.



If they feel like playing through the story and learning the game as intended is a waste of time, then I don't think this game is for them.



Or they could...play the game from lvl 1? Also as others said New Game+ is coming in ShB, so that will sort that particular issue out.



I know quite a few new players who loved that there was a huge amount of story for them to get through. They had a blast going through the content from 1 - 70. The issue isn't that there is too much content. The issue is players being too impatient.

Sure some quests need to be streamlined but to imply that boost are necessary is just condoning impatience.

just because some people like story means people who dont should spend hours skipping all of it.

im not sure why you guys think there is benefit in forcing those who dont want to do story to do story.

no one is saying remove story, just make a way out for those who dont want to do it.

[Penthea]

just because some people like story means people who dont should spend hours skipping all of it.

im not sure why you guys think there is benefit in forcing those who dont want to do story to do story.

I'm sorry but this is a Final Fantasy game, which are super famous for being very story-driven. Don't play a series renowned for its story-driven games and then complain that it has a story to be played through.

May as well start going to CoD forums and complain that so much of the game is about shooting.

[Physic]

I'm sorry but this is a Final Fantasy game, which are super famous for being very story-driven. Don't play a series renowned for its story-driven games and then complain that it has a story to be played through.

May as well start going to CoD forums and complain that so much of the game is about shooting.

the vast majority of time spent playing this game isnt in msq. They sell skip potions, msq is clearly unecessary for some people to enjoy the game. Not sure why it angers so many people that other people could skip

[Kuurei]

*Buys a story-based online game*

*Feels like the early game experience needs to be abridged and cut short, so that they can play at the cutting edge without learning shit*

Am I missing something here, or am I just stupid? I thought the whole point of a game was to....well, play it?

[Awha]

*Buys a story-based online game*

*Feels like the early game experience needs to be abridged and cut short, so that they can play at the cutting edge without learning shit*

Am I missing something here, or am I just stupid? I thought the whole point of a game was to....well, play it?

People play games for different reasons. I for one would not be playing this game if it was not for my friends. I do not care about the story I simply care about taking part in content with my friends. Without story and job skip potions I doubt I would be playing FFXIV and if I was not playing FFXIV I would have no reason to spend extra on retainers or mog statioln items. It is an MMO that just so happens to have a focus on story, no one wants to take that story away from anyone. I play FFXIV for the social experience, maybe the MSQ would be bearable if the MSQ did not feel like a single player experience with lightly sprinkled multiple player experiences spread without. Maybe make it so groups can all story content from start to finish.

[Mavrias]

*Buys a story-based online game*

*Feels like the early game experience needs to be abridged and cut short, so that they can play at the cutting edge without learning shit*

Am I missing something here, or am I just stupid? I thought the whole point of a game was to....well, play it?

"without learning" you dont need to go through the early game to learn how to play. plenty of people who bought the level skip play perfectly fine.

the biggest issue here is people saying that level and story skip shouldnt be a thing because they feel that because they went through all of arr they have some special insight into what makes a good player.

the msq is not the end all be all of what this game has to offer. there are plenty of people who skipped every last cutscene and dialogue box because they wanted to get to levelcap asap. theyre no less players than anyone else.

[Penthea]

the msq is not the end all be all of what this game has to offer. there are plenty of people who skipped every last cutscene and dialogue box because they wanted to get to levelcap asap. theyre no less players than anyone else.

I have some friends who skipped the msq, but these people didn't complain that the game had a story. They just accepted it was there and skipped the dialogue and cutscenes. I'm okay with players like this because they realise the series is famous for being story-driven, and don't complain about it being so. They found a way around it that works for them.

I'm not okay when people complain that a story even exists even though they can skip it quickly with a few clicks, and whine as if doing so is an incredible amount of effort. If the mere presence of a story offends someone so much, they should play something else.

[Physic]

*Buys a story-based online game*

*Feels like the early game experience needs to be abridged and cut short, so that they can play at the cutting edge without learning shit*

Am I missing something here, or am I just stupid? I thought the whole point of a game was to....well, play it?

its not abridged or cut short if they have new game+ and some means of skipping