New Player Experience Sucks! - Impending Expansion Problems

[MarniDawg]

After reading many of these posts it seems to me the salt is over the fact that someone has to pay money for a skip potion instead of getting it free...

[Coatl]

After reading many of these posts it seems to me the salt is over the fact that someone has to pay money for a skip potion instead of getting it free...

I mean to be fair, a new player has to cough up 50 USD in order to do a proper skip. It doesn't even skip you to the end either. A little bit of sodium is warranted I think.

[kidalutz]

The name of the game is FINAL FANTASY XIV right there in the title. New Players should come in knowing there is an actual story to the leveling process and that it will be different from other MMOs that just drop you off in the intro area after a quick introduction to collect quests that say ey go over into them woods and kill the things and leave you to that until you hit the last tiers of leveling where you hit those new quests with no sense of accomplishment or no understanding of what happened when you switched into a new leveling zone. Each quest in the story progression builds from the last, building up the player understanding of the world and why they're doing what they're doing. Each great accomplishment letting you move farther and farther along and eventually accumulating into the final act (for the time) of the story arc where you're at.And then you're going about after those continuing to press changes in the wake of the upheaval you were front and center for.

Do some people like it? No not at all these are the self same people that like quick gratification and have no sense that small incremental progress is kind of a key to life as well. However that small percentage does not even come close to representing the far bigger majority that do enjoy it, and savour it ,and learn from it, growing even as the game does. it is the majority that enjoy it that are silent because they have better things to do than come into the forums and nitpick every single thing they find wrong with something. They're out there either enjoying Eorzea or doing the grand adventure of Real Life.

[Ssmiley_Bjakkzz]

and listening to amazing sick music while surf around the webb the network and ofcs this forum for fun

[LCROSSE]

Why does everyone treat this game like endgame is the only thing there is? This is a story-driven game and jumping to the latest expansion would only serve to confuse you and make you wish you hadn't. Assuming you care about the story at all, and if not then why bother playing the game?

[Physic]

Why does everyone treat this game like endgame is the only thing there is? This is a story-drivdn gsme and jumping to the latest expansion would only serve to confuse you and make you wish you hadn't.

2/5 people i play with at 70 have never read the story and rarely watch a cutscene.

No one is saying they should go endgame, just that msq is too hardcore of a gate the more time passes. To the point that on boarding friends/returning players doesnt work as well.

[Skivvy]

Why does everyone treat this game like endgame is the only thing there is? This is a story-driven game and jumping to the latest expansion would only serve to confuse you and make you wish you hadn't. Assuming you care about the story at all, and if not then why bother playing the game?

This is just an MMO with a forced MSQ. Another game I can think of that has A LOT of story is GW2, but you aren't trapped from doing content until you've cleared all of it. There are better ways for SE to handle their story.

And again with the "If you don't like the story, why bother playing" comment. This is one of the stupidest arguments, you people need to stop. If this game only has the story to offer, what do you all do once you finish it up?

[MistakeNot]

And again with the "If you don't like the story, why bother playing" comment. This is one of the stupidest arguments, you people need to stop. If this game only has the story to offer, what do you all do once you finish it up?

Play something else until there are more things to do? No reason why one has to stick to just one game at a time.

FFXIV is a heavily story-driven game, so for people who aren't interested in the story it seems like a strange choice of game, and even stranger that they complain that there is too much story.
It is as if I would start playing EVE Online, and then start complaining that there is too much PvP in that game, just because I do not like PvP.

There are so many games out there that it seems wiser to pick games to play where one likes the overall design, instead of choosing ones whose design does not fit ones taste and then complain about said design.

[Skivvy]

Play something else until there are more things to do? No reason why one has to stick to just one game at a time.

FFXIV is a heavily story-driven game, so for people who aren't interested in the story it seems like a strange choice of game, and even stranger that they complain that there is too much story.
It is as if I would start playing EVE Online, and then start complaining that there is too much PvP in that game, just because I do not like PvP.

There are so many games out there that it seems wiser to pick games to play where one likes the overall design, instead of choosing ones whose design does not fit ones taste and then complain about said design.

You've missed my point. Many people in this thread and other threads continue to parrot the "If you don't like story, play something else" rebuttal. That might make more sense if we were talking about one of their single-player games, but we're not. This is an MMO, and MMOs cast a wide net full of various content to appeal to the masses, and to keep people occupied for a long time. The MSQ is just one portion of what makes up this game, there is plenty of other content that people are here for.

So yes, it's absolutely ridiculous to make the claim that if you don't want story, you shouldn't be here.

Also, I don't think anyone is calling for the MSQ to go away. People who enjoy it can still enjoy it. Just looking for options. SPECIFICALLY this this thread was created for the new player experience. There is an absurd amount of forced MSQ that people must do before they can get into current content, and that's going to turn off a lot of people.