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    Presence of Mind - Change

    Hey, random food for thought.

    I've been thinking about Presence of Mind of while now. It feel that it's basically a gimped version of Light Speed and while I realize it can be, in some circumstances arguably better, I feel in most situations the effects of Light Speed are just more useful. I find myself in "If that had just been instant cast XYZ scenario would have gone better" situations far more often than "This 20% haste made a difference".

    What if we changed Presence of Mind to allow WHM to move while casting for 20 seconds instead? I personally feel like this could be more beneficial while trying to heal during multiple mechanics happening.

    Thoughts?
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    What if we changed Presence of Mind to allow WHM to move while casting for 20 seconds instead?
    Question, how would you cancel your spell? I say that because most players would just move slightly to cancel spell casting, but if it continues when you are moving then you could be stuck seeing it through to the end. Maybe you started casting Raise but someone else beat you to it, ideally it's better to cancel if it's possible to save wasting MP.

    WHM has a few nifty CDs though so perhaps movement isn't the biggest issue at the moment, if Presence also boosted/effected stats in some other way (damage up, stronger/wider Benison etc) that could be a good start.
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    Hmm, I never thought about canceling a cast and I can see where that could be problematic...
    I suppose that giving an extra boost of some sort could be the smarter way to go!
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    Zero'tas Dyr-mon
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    With the supposed upcoming healer re-think the devs are doing I think a change to PoM isn't off the table. That said I don't think PoM necessarily needs too much tied to it aside from the spell speed buff. I wouldn't mind seeing interaction with other spells though. Maybe double the cool down reduction effect of lilies, reset cool downs once entirely (this might be too good though), or just enmity down perhaps? Those would be nice but I'll live if PoM is unchanged.
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    It all depends on the WHM overall changes; if they make it BLM-ish with slowcast but incredible DPS and healing output (and healing that's not too relying on GCD, or if GCD healing on WHM is made less punishing in terms of raid contribution), Presencoe of Mind can keep that effect of Haste, although I could do with its CD reduced to like 90seconds or 120. It could work like BLM Triple Cast, making all spells instant for some duration.
    It could also change the way some spells work, it could be a Mind buff, and it could be a raid buff too.

    I always thought Presence of Mind came so awkwardly early in WHM's kit (level 30 I think?), at a time where you are still learning how to heal efficiently (especially if WHM is your first healer), and you won't make good use of PoM before a long time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mansion View Post
    I always thought Presence of Mind came so awkwardly early in WHM's kit (level 30 I think?), at a time where you are still learning how to heal efficiently (especially if WHM is your first healer), and you won't make good use of PoM before a long time.
    Think it's a similar thing with AST who gets Lightspeed at level 8 (i think), it seems a little too early to make proper use of that as well. Only difference being LS was eventually adjusted and made AST even better while Presence is still pretty much untouched for such a long time now. It's a good skill though it just needs to be brought up to date with WHM's kit otherwise it'll stay kinda meh.
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    PoM is currently a DPS cooldown. The biggest QoL change would be to make it 120s CD so it lines up with thin air...

    As for changing it to move while casting... I'm not sure if I'd like that more or not...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    Question, how would you cancel your spell? I say that because most players would just move slightly to cancel spell casting, but if it continues when you are moving then you could be stuck seeing it through to the end. Maybe you started casting Raise but someone else beat you to it, ideally it's better to cancel if it's possible to save wasting MP.

    WHM has a few nifty CDs though so perhaps movement isn't the biggest issue at the moment, if Presence also boosted/effected stats in some other way (damage up, stronger/wider Benison etc) that could be a good start.
    By default on controller at least the jump button doubles as a cancel cast button, you won't even jump it will just stop casting, prolly the same on keyboard and mouse.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    Think it's a similar thing with AST who gets Lightspeed at level 8 (i think), it seems a little too early to make proper use of that as well. Only difference being LS was eventually adjusted and made AST even better while Presence is still pretty much untouched for such a long time now. It's a good skill though it just needs to be brought up to date with WHM's kit otherwise it'll stay kinda meh.
    LS at least comes with the MP cost reduction. Making it basically a PoM+TA combo in a single button.

    Which at least lets you go ham with spamming without much care. While WHM is pretty dry up until they get Assize and eventually Thin Air...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyeria View Post
    Thoughts?
    I dunno...

    I was thinking, what if it simply just became "Reduce spell cast and reuse timers to 1.50 seconds"

    Essentially making it a more powerful burst window. With some utility uses such as combining with Thin Air to spam Raises.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kurando View Post
    Question, how would you cancel your spell? I say that because most players would just move slightly to cancel spell casting, but if it continues when you are moving then you could be stuck seeing it through to the end. Maybe you started casting Raise but someone else beat you to it, ideally it's better to cancel if it's possible to save wasting MP.

    WHM has a few nifty CDs though so perhaps movement isn't the biggest issue at the moment, if Presence also boosted/effected stats in some other way (damage up, stronger/wider Benison etc) that could be a good start.
    With ESC. I'm not sure about controller players though. Get !#@%ed I guess.
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