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[Tempest222]

Well someone not unlocking jobs is obviously pretty silly and us not going to be great in a group, but I fail to see how it’s a reportable offense. If they were partied with people who were frustrated by it then those players would reserve the right to vote kick. Poor play really shouldn’t be a punishable offense, especially not when you literally have zero evidence as to why they have done what they have done, and no evidence of this player harassing or bothering anyone in any way.

I understand the report was for having the mentor crown in addition to not having unlocked jobs, but you can’t expect SE to punish a player for working within the guidelines they have set. If it’s possible to become a mentor without unlocking even a single job, then that’s on SE, and you should be making a suggestion to them to alter the requirements.

But it sounds like it actually isn’t possible to do this, so.... Obviously this person had jobs unlocked which makes the report even more frivolous. Even if they didn’t unlock jobs for the classes that start at level 1, they obviously had jobs unlocked that start as jobs, ergo they have some jobs unlocked. And you have no evidence that they are even queueing for things as a mentor as a class instead of a job.

[Crystal_Raven]

Mentors here are...weird.

You either have the total useless trolls that know nothing about the game, spread false information and regularly insult new players.

Or you have people who are knowledgeable and try to help but they're so few that you just assume they're all a-holes and ignore them, even if they are giving genuine helpful advice.

It feels like there's no in-between here. Either complete trash, or very skilled and helpful.

[DarkMasamune]

Mentors here are...weird.

You either have the total useless trolls that know nothing about the game, spread false information and regularly insult new players.

Or you have people who are knowledgeable and try to help but they're so few that you just assume they're all a-holes and ignore them, even if they are giving genuine helpful advice.

It feels like there's no in-between here. Either complete trash, or very skilled and helpful.

You are right, I came across many mentors that were just plain mean or had the crown to be pretty.

But it goes both ways ; as a mentor myself, most of the time whenever I speak to help somebody or give advice, I'm either ignored, told that 'I know how to play', or something along these lines.

That being said, I do think the requirements to be mentors should have been a bit higher. Maybe have all jobs at max level. It would be proof that you can help in a lot of situations and for different jobs. Having one tank, one DPS and one healer at max level dosen't mean much, specially now that you can buy the leveling potions... imo.

[Iscah]

I think you can also become a mentor via the crafter/gatherer requirements, and then get a standard mentor crown from that?

I'm pretty sure the reverse is true, and I can pick which mentor icon type to use after getting just the battle qualification.

[Wyssahtyn]

Can we report OP for abusing the report system and wasting some GM's time? What an asinine reason to report, the person the OP reported isn't even breaking any rules even if they're proving their incompetence by not having any jobs unlocked.

[SturmChurro]

Can we report OP for abusing the report system and wasting some GM's time? What an asinine reason to report, the person the OP reported isn't even breaking any rules even if they're proving their incompetence by not having any jobs unlocked.

Exactly. Dude obviously met the requirements if he has the crown, and if he met the requirements that's on SE.

[disturbedcobra]

There are four total crowns that can be obtained via the mentor system. You can gain the first, Mentor crown, the moment you unlock mentorship for one of the other below. if I recall correctly.


Mentor: A player who meets the qualifications to become a mentor.
PvE Mentor: A mentor who meets the qualifications to help Disciples of War or Magic.
Trade Mentor: A mentor who specializes in helping Disciples of the Hand or Land.
PvP Mentor: A mentor who meets the qualifications to help others in player versus player combat.

Source

[Sanctify]

I’ve never encountered a good mentor, they had a similar system in FFXI. We basically used the mentor mark as a sign of who not to ask for advice about the game. I’m sure there are a few decent ones out there, but honestly some of them are downright terrible or rude to new players. Why get the crown, if you don’t intend to actually help people?

Dat mount for doing 1000 mentor roulettes my dude.

[Kurando]

Dat mount for doing 1000 mentor roulettes my dude.

2000 mentor roulettes. It's no easy feat....

[LyraKuroneko]

Feel like a "I hate mentors so I'm gonna report them all" thread, hmm.