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  1. #11
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    Jeibird's Avatar
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    Auriel Neor
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    Coeurl
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Hugowulf View Post
    You can unequip job-stones.
    The desire to give people benefit of the doubt is admirable Hugo.
    I need to inform you that you can view people's search info and see exactly what classes someone has unlocked, additionally you can see if they have unlocked the job at all. Someone who has not done their job quest will, in their search info, have a 70 lancer and two dashes next to the DRG icon

    And in case youd further like to throw this specific person a bone, no they had not unlocked any crafters
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  2. #12
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    Hugo Wolf
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeibird View Post
    The desire to give people benefit of the doubt is admirable Hugo.
    I need to inform you that you can view people's search info and see exactly what classes someone has unlocked, additionally you can see if they have unlocked the job at all. Someone who has not done their job quest will, in their search info, have a 70 lancer and two dashes next to the DRG icon

    And in case youd further like to throw this specific person a bone, no they had not unlocked any crafters
    You can’t become a mentor then if you don’t have jobs unlocked. I’m not throwing them a bone I’m using facts. I only know the situation from your point of view and it’s sounding very unlikely. https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...3d2c4227dfdc2e
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  3. #13
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    Aranna Aran
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    Malboro
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    Scholar Lv 33
    Quote Originally Posted by Hugowulf View Post
    You can’t become a mentor then if you don’t have jobs unlocked. I’m not throwing them a bone I’m using facts. I only know the situation from your point of view and it’s sounding very unlikely. https://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodes...3d2c4227dfdc2e
    From that link:

    Achievement Requirements for Disciples of War and Magic
    ・Complete at least one level 60 job quest as a tank, healer, and DPS.
    ・Complete 1,000 dungeons, raids, or trials.
    ・Receive 300 player commendations.

    They could have completed a job quest at 60 for DRK, RDM, AST, as an example - ones that start as a job and not as a class.
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  4. #14
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    Kestrel Moon
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    Midgardsormr
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    Red Mage Lv 70
    Well someone not unlocking jobs is obviously pretty silly and us not going to be great in a group, but I fail to see how it’s a reportable offense. If they were partied with people who were frustrated by it then those players would reserve the right to vote kick. Poor play really shouldn’t be a punishable offense, especially not when you literally have zero evidence as to why they have done what they have done, and no evidence of this player harassing or bothering anyone in any way.

    I understand the report was for having the mentor crown in addition to not having unlocked jobs, but you can’t expect SE to punish a player for working within the guidelines they have set. If it’s possible to become a mentor without unlocking even a single job, then that’s on SE, and you should be making a suggestion to them to alter the requirements.

    But it sounds like it actually isn’t possible to do this, so.... Obviously this person had jobs unlocked which makes the report even more frivolous. Even if they didn’t unlock jobs for the classes that start at level 1, they obviously had jobs unlocked that start as jobs, ergo they have some jobs unlocked. And you have no evidence that they are even queueing for things as a mentor as a class instead of a job.
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    Last edited by Tempest222; 05-02-2019 at 03:22 AM.

  5. #15
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    DarkMasamune's Avatar
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    Miss Eclipse
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    Alpha
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by JBee View Post
    They could have completed a job quest at 60 for DRK, RDM, AST, as an example - ones that start as a job and not as a class.
    Most likely what happened, yes.

    I have to say thought, I would be tempted to think that someone who dosen't unlock their jobs' crystal is a troll and/or does not know about job quests. Saddly, I came across many players like this.

    On a side note, I came across an elementalist in Dun Scaith once. Told him and he mentioned he 'was a druid'. Best laugh in the game so far.
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  6. #16
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    Hugo Wolf
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by JBee View Post
    From that link:

    Achievement Requirements for Disciples of War and Magic
    ・Complete at least one level 60 job quest as a tank, healer, and DPS.
    ・Complete 1,000 dungeons, raids, or trials.
    ・Receive 300 player commendations.

    They could have completed a job quest at 60 for DRK, RDM, AST, as an example - ones that start as a job and not as a class.
    This is very true, though the OP mentions over and over again how the accused player has no jobs what so ever. If this true then the likelihood of becoming a mentor is slim. Unless of course they bought jobs jump books to instantly have those job quests finished.
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  7. #17
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    Crystal Raven
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    Cerberus
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Mentors here are...weird.

    You either have the total useless trolls that know nothing about the game, spread false information and regularly insult new players.

    Or you have people who are knowledgeable and try to help but they're so few that you just assume they're all a-holes and ignore them, even if they are giving genuine helpful advice.

    It feels like there's no in-between here. Either complete trash, or very skilled and helpful.
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  8. #18
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    I think you can also become a mentor via the crafter/gatherer requirements, and then get a standard mentor crown from that?

    I'm pretty sure the reverse is true, and I can pick which mentor icon type to use after getting just the battle qualification.
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  9. #19
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    DarkMasamune's Avatar
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    Miss Eclipse
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Crystal_Raven View Post
    Mentors here are...weird.

    You either have the total useless trolls that know nothing about the game, spread false information and regularly insult new players.

    Or you have people who are knowledgeable and try to help but they're so few that you just assume they're all a-holes and ignore them, even if they are giving genuine helpful advice.

    It feels like there's no in-between here. Either complete trash, or very skilled and helpful.
    You are right, I came across many mentors that were just plain mean or had the crown to be pretty.

    But it goes both ways ; as a mentor myself, most of the time whenever I speak to help somebody or give advice, I'm either ignored, told that 'I know how to play', or something along these lines.

    That being said, I do think the requirements to be mentors should have been a bit higher. Maybe have all jobs at max level. It would be proof that you can help in a lot of situations and for different jobs. Having one tank, one DPS and one healer at max level dosen't mean much, specially now that you can buy the leveling potions... imo.
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  10. #20
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    Saika Kinoshita
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    Mateus
    Main Class
    Rogue Lv 53
    Can we report OP for abusing the report system and wasting some GM's time? What an asinine reason to report, the person the OP reported isn't even breaking any rules even if they're proving their incompetence by not having any jobs unlocked.
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