Stealing aggro'd mobs in a "kite" - do you think this is against ToS?

[DoubleEcho]

While farming Molting Mitelings today for Diremite Webs, there was a party in my area "kiting" the Mitelings about 8 or more at a time (they would ride a chocobo through them and gain aggro, and draw them back to the party). This of course made it pretty difficult for me to farm my mitelings, so I started attacking the aggro'd but not claimed miteling at the end of the "train" so I'd at least get one out of the spawned bunch. After about 5 minutes of this the party went elsewhere, so I'm guessing this got them a little mad. They seemed to be doing this for exp (Level 29-32 players on 37-39 mobs) but I was doing it strictly for the webs to level up WVR with a 50 GLD.

What I'm wondering is, do you think this is against the Terms of Service? Specifically this line:

"Disruptive behavior that negatively affects the experience of others or the service itself is strictly forbidden within FINAL FANTASY XIV."

Some could say I was disrupting their gameplay by killing one of their 8 in the train, but:

1) It was not claimed
2) I was able to attack it, so I feel it's free for all at that point and
3) If you're pulling 8 mobs at a time, you can afford to let someone have one.

Some may say it's not "nice" to kill one in the train, but my thoughts are that it's greedy to take them all in the first place. What are your thoughts?

[Aistaraina]

No. An unclaimed mob is unclaimed. But it's common courtesy to give the camp to whoever was there first, which you never stated.

[DoubleEcho]

No. An unclaimed mob is unclaimed. But it's common courtesy to give the camp to whoever was there first, which you never stated.

Well, I think I was there first, but that's an interesting comment. If a sole person was there first, do they have claim over the mobs or does the party? Or if the party was there first do they have sole claim over the mobs?

[AngryNixon]

Well, I think I was there first, but that's an interesting comment. If a sole person was there first, do they have claim over the mobs or does the party? Or if the party was there first do they have sole claim over the mobs?

"I was here first" isn't an argument for/against anything. If someone rolls in and takes your spot and you are unable to hold your ground, then the mobs are theirs. There isn't any PvP or PK in this game so either walk away or fight for your spot until someone gives up.

They could be civilized and move on if they see you there (and some will), but make no mistake, nobody is being forced to be courteous.

[Impulse]

"I was here first" isn't an argument for/against anything. If someone rolls in and takes your spot and you are unable to hold your ground, then the mobs are theirs. There isn't any PvP or PK in this game so either walk away or fight for your spot until someone gives up.

They could be civilized and move on if they see you there (and some will), but make no mistake, nobody is being forced to be courteous.

This. If you're there first and you want to keep it that much, fight for it. Otherwise, find another spotor try again later.
I was farming bomb ash solo on my PGL yesterday. I was the only one there until a ARCx2 THM trio popped up about 20 minutes later. I did a /no to them, they all did /laugh. Most would think "Oh, three people are trying to farm over me. I'd better just give up for now..."
I tossed on my Hermes Shoes and out-claimed them until they eventually left after about 4 respawn waves.

[Aistaraina]

Well, I think I was there first, but that's an interesting comment. If a sole person was there first, do they have claim over the mobs or does the party? Or if the party was there first do they have sole claim over the mobs?

To me, it's first come, first serve. If another player/group is already at a camp, for whatever reason, when I get there, I'll find another spot. If I'm there first, and someone tries to camp on top of me, I'll yell at them, and do what I can to make their lives miserable.

But as someone above me said, there is no stated rule. An unclaimed mob is unclaimed. This is just a courtesy that has extended way back into XI.

[TheVedis]

To me, it's first come, first serve. If another player/group is already at a camp, for whatever reason, when I get there, I'll find another spot. If I'm there first, and someone tries to camp on top of me, I'll yell at them.

the tos has nothing about first come first server in it, thats just the polite thing to do though

also @Xoo going out of your way to mess with Plvl cuz you dont like it is griefing...the correct thing to do is ignore it and move on if you see it

[Xoo]

the tos has nothing about first come first server in it, thats just the polite thing to do though

also @Xoo going out of your way to mess with Plvl cuz you dont like it is griefing...the correct thing to do is ignore it and move on if you see it

It's not like I go out and look to screw up somebody's day. But if I come upon one with my own group, I will take the camp. People that play the game > People that cheat.

[AmandaHuggenkiss]

To me, it's first come, first serve. If another player/group is already at a camp, for whatever reason, when I get there, I'll find another spot. If I'm there first, and someone tries to camp on top of me, I'll yell at them, and do what I can to make their lives miserable.

But as someone above me said, there is no stated rule. An unclaimed mob is unclaimed. This is just a courtesy that has extended way back into XI.

Once the merger happens and the population triples (at least on my world it will) all camps will be camped all the time.
I predict fierce competition for mobs.

[DeadRiser]

I'm guessing they were powerleveling. So in that case....

TAKE ALL THEIR MOBS