Roulette: alliance raids about queues

[OwlBlackX]

As tank can faster queue.

But, I got 17min queue in alliance raids...

What happened?

[Zodiar]

Alliance raids have a 1/2/5 composition instead of a 2/2/4

[OwlBlackX]

Alliance raids have a 1/2/5 composition instead of a 2/2/4

Sorry I don't get what mean " 1/2/5 and 2/2/4"?

12th May and 22th April?

[Nezerius]

Sorry I don't get what mean " 1/2/5 and 2/2/4"?

12th May and 22th April?

They're full party compositions. 1 tank/2 healers/5 dps (1/2/5), 2 tanks/2 healers/4 dps (2/2/4)

You're getting longer queue times because each full alliance raid only needs a total of 3 tanks.

[kidalutz]

In other words Alliance Raids dont care if you're a tank. they got 24 other people to queue for so sometimes tanks and healers got to actually wait. its still far less of a wait than DPS so it's not worth complaining about really

[Seraphor]

Alliance Raid parties are:
1 Tank
2 Healers
5 DPS

Which means there's more demand for DPS than any other duties and half the demand for Tanks.
This is significant for Tank queue times, and often means DPS get the quicker queues, with Healers being more or less unaffected.
Additionally, the way Alliance Raids match up three full parties can lead to quirks in the matchmaking where, very occasionally, there's spikes and troughs where you might randomly be waiting an extra 5-20 minutes (depending on peak/off-peak) because there's so many variables.

[Moonstone]

1/2/5 means 1 tank, 2 healers and 5 DPS for each 8 man alliance party instead of 2 tanks, 2 healers and 4 DPS for a regular 8 man party. So there are only 3 tank spots out of 24 spots for each alliance raid.

[LineageRazor]

To put it another way - when queuing most content as a tank, you just have to wait for one healer and two DPS to sign up before you have enough. When queuing for raid, you need to wait for two healers and FIVE DPS to sign up before you have enough. There are more DPS than tanks out there, but a difference like that is still noticeable.

In my case, to solve this problem, I do most content on my tank, and gear up my healers and DPS using the 24-man raids. That gives me fast queues no matter what I do!

[Clicked]

Because you only require 1 tank for every 8 people in 24 mans. All other content requires 1 tank per 4 people. So tank demand decreases by 50% and DPS demand increases by 25%.

On a side note, I really wish the standard party was 5 people. It feels like so many people roll tanks just for faster queues but they don't actually want to tank at all. If 5 (light)/10 (full) parties existed instead of 4/8, there would be a lot less pressure for DPS to roll tanks.

[SturmChurro]

Because you only require 1 tank for every 8 people in 24 mans. All other content requires 1 tank per 4 people. So tank demand decreases by 50% and DPS demand increases by 25%.

On a side note, I really wish the standard party was 5 people. It feels like so many people roll tanks just for faster queues but they don't actually want to tank at all. If 5 (light)/10 (full) parties existed instead of 4/8, there would be a lot less pressure for DPS to roll tanks.

Pretty much me! I only play tank in roullete/dungeon queues. I don't actually do any content with it.