CREDD/PLEX/WoW Token system

[Feronar]

I wonder if FF14 could eventually add a system similar to the CREDD from WildStar, the PLEX from EVE Online, and the WoW Token from World of Warcraft. Such a system could work like this:

A player who wants more gil could buy a token for $20 on the Mog Station, and it would be delivered to a single character. That token could them be posted on the Market Board to be sold for gil. The exact amount of gil would depend on the market value at the time.

Afterward, another player would buy the token, and when using it, would be presented with an option to either add 30 days of subscription time, or to add 1500 Crysta which can be spent on Mog Station items or services, new FF14 expansions, or other Square Enix games.

This would allow players who want to buy gil to do so through a safe, secure, and legitimate official channel, allow players with excess gil to stay subscribed and buy more Square Enix games without spending their own real money, and completely cut shady gold seller sites out of the equation.

[Seraphor]

"But inflation!"
"You'll destroy the economy!"

Yeah, not the first time this has been suggested, but it is a great idea.

[Caitlyn]

Why not let people able to sold things from the mog store like phantasia or skip potions on the market board? : )

No.

Keep pay to win out of XIV.

Since when does Gil affects raids or PvP? I dont see Pay to win here.

[Thi]

Being able to buy hq crafted gear, and consumables on day one of a raid tier patch with bought gil is a case that is pay to win.

PvP is a joke in this game so meh.

P2W would also apply to the true end game of XIV, glamour and housing.

[Kazrah]

Being able to buy hq crafted gear, and consumables on day one of a raid tier patch with bought gil is a case that is pay to win.

That usually takes more than one day, and by then, better groups would have already cleared those raids.

PvP is a joke in this game so meh.

That I can agree on.

P2W would also apply to the true end game of XIV, glamour and housing.

Oh, this is a joke response. Well done, good bait.

[Melichoir]

Since when does Gil affects raids or PvP? I dont see Pay to win here.

It affects raids through potions and crafted/overmelded gear, materia, and other materials that make clearing said tiers easier.

While I think the system is fine on paper, i get the feeling its going to be abused. The problem with the game and gil isnt that there isnt enough of it, its that the game doesnt control the gil in the game efficiently enough and overtime it inflates to astronomical numbers. This is due to a variety of factors, but mainly because the system as a whole dumps a lot more gil into the economy than it pulls out. Im not talking transfers of gil (such as when you buy or trade an item from another player to yourself for gil) but literally when quests, maps, and the like dump gil into the economy with very little things to spend that gil on that takes directly taken out of the economy (which would be any purchase from an NPC).

Also the abuse would work as follows:

Person buys gil from RMT botter, then uses said Gil to purchase token for 30 day. If the tokens are bought for $20, and fetch a price of 20 million on the MB, all RMTers have to sell you gil at a better conversion rate which they can do because its bot farm based. So if an RMT bot sells 10 million gil for $8, you pay $16 for 20 million gil, where youd have to pay SE $20 for that much. This makes RMT bots more likely to propagate because for them, its a lot less effort to just manage bots that bot farm mats that then they turn into gil to sell people at a rate that undercuts the conversion rate for the tokens.


If you want to fix the economy, this isnt a solution. Just a bandaid at the best of considerations. The game actually needs to start charging harder on a lot of things, like property tax on structures as an example, steeper repair costs, and more items required from NPCs to function within the game (supplies like potions and the other things to deal with status effects.)

[Penthea]

Since when does Gil affects raids or PvP? I dont see Pay to win here.

Someone here has never heard of win trading or selling raid boss kills.

And yes they do happen.

[Thi]

No.

Keep pay to win out of XIV. These systems allow whales to legally buy currency and destroy game economies.

I've seen these systems in multiple games and it leads to inflation and even more cash shop items instead of in-game rewards.

[Krojack]

No.

Keep pay to win out of XIV. These systems allow whales to legally buy currency and destroy game economies.

I've seen these systems in multiple games and it leads to inflation and even more cash shop items instead of in-game rewards.

In the meantime lets just allow all these gathering bots and dungeon bots to destroy the economy even more...

[Selova]

No.

Keep pay to win out of XIV. These systems allow whales to legally buy currency and destroy game economies.

I've seen these systems in multiple games and it leads to inflation and even more cash shop items instead of in-game rewards.

It would do none of these things. Not unless they started making raid drops from Savage and Ultimate BoE, which they obviously aren't ever doing. People love to throw the P2W term around without understanding what it actually entails. You are aware that FFXIV has the biggest cash shop out of all the subscription MMO's right?

WoW's cash shop doesn't even come close to offering nearly as many things as our cash shop does. (I have no issue with the mogstation cash shop, and think it's completely fine) WoW's economy is also perfectly fine, since you obviously can't buy BiS slot gear off the AH. I honestly don't care if they add it or not, but let's not jump the shark with false assumptions.


People also seem to not understand that the reason WoW Created the WoW token was to combat RMT/Gold sellers which has done incredibly successfully. So if SE implemented their own system to get rid of the ridiculous amount of RMT spammers that plague the game, I'd be all for it.