another housing complaint thread

[timmeh1333]

It's May 9th 2018 on the Jenova server... there are ZERO plots available. ZERO.

This is the pre-expansion lull.

Developers, please. At least tell us if you have a plan. I love your game, but there's lots of other places I can spend my money and time. I'd like to play here but you repeatedly show that you do not listen to your community, and you just do whatever you want.

I actively question if any of the developers even play the game that they created. If they played it, they'd make it better.

/rant

[Ifeanychukwu]

It's May 9th 2018 on the Jenova server... there are ZERO plots available. ZERO.

This is the pre-expansion lull.

Developers, please. At least tell us if you have a plan. I love your game, but there's lots of other places I can spend my money and time. I'd like to play here but you repeatedly show that you do not listen to your community, and you just do whatever you want.

I actively question if any of the developers even play the game that they created. If they played it, they'd make it better.

/rant

To be fair, housing auto-demolition was frozen from October of last year until about two weeks ago. Wait until the end of the month and I bet there will be plenty of open plots to choose from. When I snagged my medium (the exact plot I wanted) it was during a lull between patches, but auto-demolition was still active so when I went to look for plots there were dozens available in many wards and housing districts.

[Poisonous]

I don't play the game anymore because my only way of getting a house is to stand and click.

[timmeh1333]

Today on Jenova server (a "normal" population server):

1 small plot in goblet (camped by 5 ppl), zero plots in mist, zero plots in lavbeds, zero in shirogane

Developers please address the lack of housing availability on "normal" population servers. I can't imagine what it's like on a high-population server... oh wait, it's probably the same. NO HOUSING AVAILABLE.

Also people are saying that there's 3rd party programs that you can afk and run and automate clicking the placard -- wouldn't this be cheating? What are the developers doing to stop this? Nothing.

Please fix the housing system. There's a lot of people making great suggestions. How about you read them? Thank you.

[Ilyrian]

There's a lot of people making great suggestions.

Are there?

'Cause it's pretty much one of two things. They either instance all of it or add more.

[Blue_Myu]

been camping at this one plot in Jenova too. It's been available since 14 hours ago, and there's a Lalafel who has not missed a beat in pressing the sign all. The. Time. It's inhuman, it's probably botting, (They openly stated they were using an auto clicker) I've got a friend with me who said they're going to start using the same program they are (The autoclicker) if they don't get the house at this rate, because someone's been at it for 14 hours and not even been at the computer, and those who HAVE been at the computer (off and on for 14 hours) have wasted an inhumanly amount of time, like myself, and missed eating, amongst other things.

I could have trained Siberian Tigers.
I could have taught myself Chinese.
Instead I'm sitting here. For 14 hours. Competing with what I am 99% certainty is a bot. I am waiting for someone to come in and take it from all of us whom have been there all day.

[Dyvid]

What is the solution then?

[Blue_Myu]

What is the solution then?

With the way the current system is, it won't work in the long run. You could add more housing, you could double the amount of wards, triple the amount of plots, but it will all get bought up in the end, and then you're back to square one with more clicking for those looking for a house. When you have a finite resource, there comes a point when that resource runs out, especially high in demand.

You would have to do instanced housing for truly best results, but then that would isolate people. Something I imagine they don't want which is why they have the neighborhood in the first place.

[Besame]

With the way the current system is, it won't work in the long run. You could add more housing, you could double the amount of wards, triple the amount of plots, but it will all get bought up in the end, and then you're back to square one with more clicking for those looking for a house. When you have a finite resource, there comes a point when that resource runs out, especially high in demand.

You would have to do instanced housing for truly best results, but then that would isolate people. Something I imagine they don't want which is why they have the neighborhood in the first place.

Wild Star was bar none the best housing but SWtOR was not bad either. They had big market board-type things in each hub like Tatooine, etc,. where people could put their name up and check off allowances for visitation, etc. Accessing these hubs was insta-transport to the person's place. The only way I get visitors now is if they come via invite anyway so it wouldn't be any more isolating, in fact, would make it easier for strangers to access instantly if you were on the board and accepting invites. Both of these games had instanced housing.

[Blue_Myu]

Wild Star was bar none the best housing but SWtOR was not bad either. They had big market board-type things in each hub like Tatooine, etc,. where people could put their name up and check off allowances for visitation, etc. Accessing these hubs was insta-transport to the person's place. The only way I get visitors now is if they come via invite anyway so it wouldn't be any more isolating, in fact, would make it easier for strangers to access instantly if you were on the board and accepting invites. Both of these games had instanced housing.

Even so, that would require redoing the entire housing system. I'm not saying it's impossible, but anyone with a house would likely lose it for such a new system.

They could alternatively make it an auction system instead.
Start the house off at the starting price and then increase it with either a fixed gil, or make people type in the numbers they want to bid at...something like that (The latter would make botting for it almost impossible) Let the gil decide. Except, unlike before, the amount of gil being used goes back to the system, and should the house be demolished/removed, you earn the amount of the base land, not how much you bid on it.
This would help drain the economy of excess gil, and encourage those who don't yet have a house to be on more to earn more gil to buy the house.
The auction could have a set timer when it ends, or it could end randomly like the current system does.
Randomly would be VERY annoying true, but sniping it at the last second via what people on ebay do would be much harder.

Regardless, in the short run they could just flat out add more which would help with availability, but as I've said, they're going to get snatched up. If you want a large on Jenova, good luck.