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    Player
    Squig's Avatar
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    Limsa Lominsa
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    Rehl Tayuun
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    Balmung
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Vnolan View Post
    If it's one person, tell the others on your server to git gud. Hundreds to thousands of "hunters" across the data center unable to compete with a single player lol
    The thing is, though, that the pace of hunts is entirely dictated by whoever pulls first. When soloing any A-Ranks and ARR S-Ranks is 100% feasible, even if you were able to get the kind of coordination on a massive scale to get people to resist the prisoner’s dilemma situation with Hunt pulls, 75% of hunt marks being pulled won’t end in a solo player dying. Hunt competition is completely one-sided.
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    OrangeCrystarium's Avatar
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    Samuel Fernguard
    World
    Louisoix
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 80
    It's great when people wait for others to group up before a pull but honestly nobody is entitled to the kill. It's not reserved for anyone's chopping board. If someone reaches the hunt before you and pulls it then I say fair game. If someone pulls it while you are there and waiting for others to group up, the same point applies. Is it considered bad manners? Depends on who you ask I suppose. Personally I believe this sense of entitlement needs to die and burn in a fire. People are willing to hop worlds to find hunts while others sit on their ass waiting for a shout in linkshell and then cry when they get beaten to the punchline.
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    Rufalus's Avatar
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    Lufie Newleaf
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    Ragnarok
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    Monk Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Jeeqbit View Post
    SE indicated they intend to make them fates sometime during 5.x. They are quite understandably too busy with the expansion to do it right now.
    To be clear on this he just pondered out loud some possible things that could be changed when questioned about it, but didn't yet commit to any kind of change.
    Personally I'm not sure I'd like a fate system but I wouldn't be strongly against it. They could just bulk up older hunts because let's be honest, those lv50 ones are killed almost exclusively by level-cap players, not lv50 players. Soon it's going to be lv80-IL500 people mowing down old hunt targets.
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    Jeeqbit's Avatar
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    Oscarlet Oirellain
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    Jenova
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    Warrior Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Rufalus View Post
    To be clear on this he just pondered out loud some possible things that could be changed when questioned about it, but didn't yet commit to any kind of change.
    The amount of detail they went into when pondering the FATE idea, as opposed to others, seemed like they had seriously attempted it but run into the roadblock that FATEs have no spawn condition system (and they can't give them one while busy with 5.0).

    Perhaps they will end up doing something else, but what I gleaned from it is they view that as one of the few solutions they'd actually consider.

    They shot down all the rest, such as increasing the HP because it would stop players from getting credit (even though this only applies to people who don't join a party).
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    giwaman's Avatar
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    Donna Shanao
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    Carbuncle
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 70
    Or just add 5-10 intances per town....
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    DumdogsWorld's Avatar
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    W'kohrahx Tia
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 80
    I don't understand where or when this is happening for the most part. Don't get me wrong - I know it is! Too many people complain about it for it to be an exaggeration.

    However, I've encountered A-rank hunts plenty of times where I shout into the zone for 10 minutes or so AND use party finder AND tell my Free Company, and nobody arrives. Sure, it may just be because I'm a vampire and sometimes play really late at night, but yeah.

    Anyway, you don't have to worry about early pulls from me.
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    disturbedcobra's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Radimir Amira
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by DumdogsWorld View Post
    I don't understand where or when this is happening for the most part. Don't get me wrong - I know it is! Too many people complain about it for it to be an exaggeration.

    However, I've encountered A-rank hunts plenty of times where I shout into the zone for 10 minutes or so AND use party finder AND tell my Free Company, and nobody arrives. Sure, it may just be because I'm a vampire and sometimes play really late at night, but yeah.

    Anyway, you don't have to worry about early pulls from me.
    I had the same thing happen to me when I ran into 2 Rank A hunts while doing a BTN quest in The Lochs. Luckily got them both andIxion as an added bonus. ^^ Also had a tell from another server player mentionin something about a "Hunt Train"?
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    Feel free to hit me up at my discord: Fuji#9732

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    Elise Hamilton
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Arcanist Lv 100
    Some guy suggested adding a Hunt announcement in server chat, where if a Hunt mark is found a server wide message is launched on your chat box (unless you mute it). Then that A/S Rank have 5 minutes of Invulnerability before anyone can damage it xD.
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    Felix Blackthorne
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 70
    That's a core problem with the hunting system, not with server visitation. Personally, I can almost never find a hunt because almost all of the hunting linkshells are full and it's anyone's guess as to which zone you need to wait in in hopes of hearing a hunt location being called out.

    Hunts definitely need some sort of scaling, especially in older zones and maybe a short grace period after spawning before they can be engaged.
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    Liam Harper
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    Zodiark
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    White Mage Lv 90
    I found it interesting that you cannot gather timed nodes on other servers. It makes sense, they don't want rare items being made too easy to get, potentially losing value and affecting the economy, or stress the servers in ShB so they played it cautious.

    ...But then at the same time Cross-World hunting is fine, gaining thousands of extra tomes and seals with a CWLS, wrecking hunt communities and probably straining the servers a ton when ShB S ranks hit. No caution or restriction. I don't get it. It's like they did this intentionally thinking it would be an improvement.
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