Are the shards the twelve?

[DamianFatale]

Are the shards physical gods themselves, like the twelve? If you split yourself into 13 beings, then you wouldn't be those 13 anymore.

However, if they were the 12, we would need a thirteenth, and as far as we know there isn't a 13th god.

[Amekaze]

I am by far not a loremaster or anything alike,but I think shards have nothing to do with the Twelve (atleast not in that way).

[Dualblade]

Depends, are there Thirteen members of the Twelve? Because its the Source and Thirteen Shards.

[Erendis]

Well, there's Nald and Thal ...

[Rocl]

Depends, are there Thirteen members of the Twelve? Because its the Source and Thirteen Shards.

Like Erendis said, they do separate Nald and Thal occasionally, so, yes. (Living on a Prayer makes sure to remind you that there are Thirteen marks of the Twelve in Eorzea!)

[Mansion]

I always thought it was more 1 source, 13 shards adding up to 14 because it's... Final Fantasy 14. And nothing more to it.

[DamianFatale]

Maybe all the gods + hydaelyn are the shards. Will we meet one of the twelve in Norvbrandt? I wonder who.

[Amekaze]

Can someone explain the connection between the two please? What do shards have to do with the twelve?

[Jandor]

Can someone explain the connection between the two please? What do shards have to do with the twelve?

I think the theory, such as it is, is that when Hydaelyn got split the 13 shards would develop their own versions of the original mother crystal and that is possibly where 'The Twelve' come from.

Originally I guess it would have been 'The Thirteen' but since the thirteenth world got really messed up and became the void maybe the thirteenth god faded away too, and also at this point Hydaelyn has eaten 7 of our gods.

While it would be neat I guess, as far as I can tell this idea is all based on nothing other than the numbers sort of lining up a bit.

[Amekaze]

I think the theory, such as it is, is that when Hydaelyn got split the 13 shards would develop their own versions of the original mother crystal and that is possibly where 'The Twelve' come from.

Originally I guess it would have been 'The Thirteen' but since the thirteenth world got really messed up and became the void maybe the thirteenth god faded away too, and also at this point Hydaelyn has eaten 7 of our gods.

While it would be neat I guess, as far as I can tell this idea is all based on nothing other than the numbers sort of lining up a bit.

Thanks!
But it seems to me that even if it is true,wouldnt we have that 13th god regardless of what happend there in the end?