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    Suggestion For housing

    So this whole random timer after demolition thing is ridiculous. I see why it was put into place ( in order to stop people from selling their houses directly) but there are so many better ways that this could be handled, and this is my suggestion:

    - A house that has been recently demolished would be placed in an un-purchasable state for a set amount of time( Something like 48hours or so)
    - While the house is un-purchasable, players may head to the plot and place their name in at the placard saying they are interested in the plot. Names will be recorded.
    - When you are placed down as interested, money is taken from you and placed into a reserve pool.
    - At the end of the un-purchasable period, names are lotteried off and the winner will get the plot.
    - Money for those who did not win would be returned to them.

    Like this post and comment if you like the idea, or throw some suggestions to improve upon this idea as well
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    Last edited by Flu; 04-25-2019 at 12:11 AM.

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    So you want to introduce lottery. You want to target a symptom, the placard timer, instead of the real problem which is the housing shortage.

    If there is no shortage of houses there would be no need for the placard timer. That this simple logic escapes people so often amazes me.

    Lottery will not increase the amount of houses or home owners. This is why it will not work. All that lottery will do is make a horrible system less inconvenient. We need a real fix, not some dice roll band-aid slapped on to a bad feature that does absolutely nothing to tackle the heart of the issue.

    Instanced housing is the only way to make the system equally fair to every player. We need a housing system in which that what another players does cannot under any circumstances affect someone else. Not something that merely introduces a different way to compete in an already awful system.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    So you want to introduce lottery. You want to target a symptom, the placard timer, instead of the real problem which is the housing shortage.

    If there is no shortage of houses there would be no need for the placard timer. That this simple logic escapes people so often amazes me.

    Lottery will not increase the amount of houses or home owners. This is why it will not work. All that lottery will do is make a horrible system less inconvenient. We need a real fix, not some dice roll band-aid slapped on to a bad feature that does absolutely nothing to tackle the heart of the issue.

    Instanced housing is the only way to make the system equally fair to every player. We need a housing system in which that what another players does cannot under any circumstances affect someone else. Not something that merely introduces a different way to compete in an already awful system.
    Oh, you are absolutely correct. The big picture is to just make it so everyone can get a house, but I would think that this is far harder to implement and will take quite a bit of time. I'm saying for now this is a better option than the random timer. I thought this was obvious and is why it isn't mentioned.
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    a loto system would make the issue worst...
    and honestly 70 percent of ppl would be banned .
    you think ppl are angry now loto systems would create true anger
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    a loto system would make the issue worst...
    and honestly 70 percent of ppl would be banned .
    you think ppl are angry now loto systems would create true anger
    How exactly would it make the issue worse? Right now we have many players standing around at a placard, most of them running a keyboard macro, to try and secure the plot for hours on end. At least this way you can place your name down and go off and actually play the game. I fail to see any scenario where the lotto system would make the situation worse than it already is
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    As someone who just recently gave up his house, if more housing and/or instanced housing isn't an option then I'd very much be all for a lottery system. Far more fair, less inconvenient and impossible to abuse. No longer would I have to sit and spam a placard waiting for an arbitrary invisible timer to tick away just because people want to abuse the current housing system, I can actually play the game and not waste my paid sub time! Amazing thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flu View Post
    How exactly would it make the issue worse? Right now we have many players standing around at a placard, most of them running a keyboard macro, to try and secure the plot for hours on end. At least this way you can place your name down and go off and actually play the game. I fail to see any scenario where the lotto system would make the situation worse than it already is
    Simple in the end someone can get the plot and evently you will get 1 but a loto system would screw everyone every single day.
    so right now u might have a 1 in 50 chance if they used loto you would have a 1-9000 chance lol almost noone wins the loto in golden saucer for housing no..

    and if they did add this id support the game being deleted permanently..
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    Simple in the end someone can get the plot and evently you will get 1 but a loto system would screw everyone every single day.
    so right now u might have a 1 in 50 chance if they used loto you would have a 1-9000 chance lol almost noone wins the loto in golden saucer for housing no..

    and if they did add this id support ddos
    yea... no it wouldn't change the odds at all. You'd still have to go and put your name in at the available plot so you would have the same amount of characters entered into the lotto as it is now
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flu View Post
    yea... no it wouldn't change the odds at all. You'd still have to go and put your name in at the available plot so you would have the same amount of characters entered into the lotto as it is now
    I'm assuming though that more people would try to do that versus sitting at a placard all day until the timer runs out. Thus it would mean lower odds of winning.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    I'm assuming though that more people would try to do that versus sitting at a placard all day until the timer runs out. Thus it would mean lower odds of winning.
    Possibly yes, but they would still have to be checking to find an open plot within the timer. And either way this would not create more anger, this would lessen it. The only people I could even see getting more angry are the folks sitting at the Placards now and running a macro.
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