Removal of names when unfriending someone

[Natama]

Hello there. This is my first post and probably the only post I will be putting on the forums! Due to situations that I have recently been in which involved stalking, I believe that there needs to be a direct change to how adding friends works.

At the current moment, SE cannot remove friends from anyone's friends list simply because it would fall under hacking and invasion of privacy. I believe to fix this idea, there should be a rework of the friends list!

Right now if you remove a friend from your list, your name still remains on their list and they can see when you are online, where you are, use your teleports, etc etc. Even if you have the person blacklisted, they still have full access to you.

I believe that there should be a rework so if you remove a friend from your list, it removes their name from your friends list and your name from their friends list. There should be that two way consent so that more people feel safer and don't have situations with stalkers who used to be friends. While I understand it is an invasion of privacy to remove names from certain lists, I feel that it's even more so an invasion of privacy for you to allow that access to remain when a person has clearly removed you from the friends list for a reason - especially if you are now on their blacklist.

There should never be a situation where a blacklisted person can teleport to your apartment, personal house or FC house simply because you were once their friend. People keeping tabs on you when you no longer wish for them to be in your life or a part of your online experience isn't what many of us signed up for.

I know when I first started the game, I thought FFXIV was like many other MMO's that if one person removed you from their list, both parties were removed. Allowing the person you don't wish to communicate with anymore to keep your name and information on their list is only enhancing cyber stalking and it makes a lot of people feel like they aren't entitled to their privacy while also giving full disclosure to the offending party they wish to be removed from. So this really needs to change and I hope that SE finally understands how many people are affected by such an absurd working of a friends list.

[Lexi]

That is scary I had no idea that could happen. That should be fixed someone who is blacklisted never be allowed on your friends list.

[NeoGeo84]

I 100% agree with what Kitty has said.

[TalosEscher]

i dont understand the part of hacking and invasion of privacy when it comes to deleting someone from people friendlist, i do understand if you delete someone from your friend list it means you dont want to be as close to them, and blacklisting them means you dont want any contact to them what so ever. so if SE isnt deleting people from friendlist when the other person is deleting them, and forcing people to get together in the duty finder when one of them got the other blacklisted, they should do something about it now. people stalk, harass others. its no news that people want to harm others for just not liking them. i hope this threat gets taken seriously

[Canadane]

At the current moment, SE cannot remove friends from anyone's friends list simply because it would fall under hacking and invasion of privacy.

I'm pretty sure if SE wanted to wipe your friends list, they very well could.
They just don't care to ever do it.

[Kaete]

This is downright absurd and creepy. What game doesn't allow you to have your own privacy from players who are creating a toxic and dramatic play environment? "Blacklist them" isn't how you fix things if they can still see you online, follow you around, know every zone you're in, teleport to your personal housing, etc. It's online bullying. You can't just ignore a problem that continually shows up in your playspace.

Like many of us, I play this game to get away from stressors in life. Dealing with them in a fantasy world is not something I would enjoy. I have had issues with people following me in the past, also. I found out the hard way (by moving off the data center, changing a name 3 times and eventually coming back to this server months later) that a person you may have LEFT the server for can still contact you, warp to you and follow you around. If you've been married to them before? Guess what, their ring still works too and brings them right to you even if you've dropped yours. This is unacceptable play behavior and should be taken seriously.

Whether it is a man following a woman, a woman following a woman, a man following a man - genders don't matter. If you are being harassed by someone who is clearly intent on doing it, this should be taken seriously in the gaming environment as I'm sure it would when police get involved outside of it. SE, please take this seriously. Why even have the option to remove someone from your friends list if it's not a 2 sided thing?

[Melikka]

I am so, so sorry that you have to go through the exact same thing as me.
Sending you all the support I can through this.

It is really unbelievable that they label it an "invasion of privacy"! You are absolutly right: Where is our privacy? Does us feeling safe and trying to protect ourselves from stalkers and haressers really count so little? Where is our right for privacy?

I said that in my thread about ingame stalking as well, but literally every other game/ game client/ social media side is able to manage this. If I kick someone from my list on facebook, they won't be able to access my page anymore and keep tabs on me.
Why is this not possible in FF14?

When I decide (for whatever reason) to kick someone from my f-list, I want my name removed from that person's one as well. I want them to not be able to watch me, send me moogle mail or teleport easily to whereever I am.

This is the second thread on the forums about this issue. I am sure your GM Team has countless of similiar ingame reports.
Fix this, SE!

[Eriane_Elis]

That is really creepy! I didn't know either. I hope this gets resolved >.<

[ArcticIceDragoon]

Boost this! SE really needs to address this because I have found myself in a similar position where I had a huge falling out with someone and now want nothing to do with them. I deleted them from my friends list, but that doesn't mean I was removed from their friend's list in return. I am honestly uncomfortable with the fact that they can still check up on me to know when I'm online and where I am at in the game. SE you really need to change this so that when a friend is removed it removes you from their friends list as well.

[Natama]

I really wish this thread would get more recognition considering how dangerous of a situation this could turn into. Seems that we are told by Game Masters to make a thread that they completely ignore and continue to not take into account when it comes to their players safety. I was supposed to be sent to a higher GM in regards to the stalking and instead the ticket was simply closed and nothing ever came of it. How is that fair to any player who pays money to a video game to support it? Why do our predators have leniency while the victims suffer in silence while nothing gets done? Come on, SE - ACKNOWLEDGE THIS ISSUE!