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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeva View Post
    I have a better solution: restrict housing to FCs. If people want their own house they can get an apartment. FCs actually need the houses for airships, rooms and gardens. My group of over a dozen have been trying since maintenance ended to get a house and every time we find an open plot it gets stolen by someone relocating their house, or some script kiddie running a macro to target the placard.

    This whole situation is ridiculous.
    This is not a better solution. Let people be able to get houses reasonably, fc or not.

    Better yet let fcs have guild halls, theres a couple of games that do that.
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    It is definitely a better solution. Unless you have a better reason why large groups of paying customers should be inconvenienced by a selfish few people and/or the company offering services they can't consistently or properly moderate?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeva View Post
    It is definitely a better solution. Unless you have a better reason why large groups of paying customers should be inconvenienced by a selfish few people and/or the company offering services they can't consistently or properly moderate?
    Why do you think making it so players cant get homes is better than having a guild hall instead of making fcs have to buy a house.

    Why can't I get a house because youre mad at bots and cheaters.

    Quote Originally Posted by Paladinleeds View Post
    Shell FCs... just to get extra housing for their main FC materials. Very little of the freed up personal housing would go to genuine FCs and not shell FCs. On Louisoix I believe someone I used to be friends with has 20 shell FCs (plus the main FC), each with a house. And she could just get even more accounts for even more shell FCs if it came to it (and knowing her, she would). So that wouldn't solve much.
    Also this is already and would continue to be a huge issue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeva View Post
    I have a better solution: restrict housing to FCs. If people want their own house they can get an apartment. FCs actually need the houses for airships, rooms and gardens. My group of over a dozen have been trying since maintenance ended to get a house and every time we find an open plot it gets stolen by someone relocating their house, or some script kiddie running a macro to target the placard.

    This whole situation is ridiculous.
    Shell FCs... just to get extra housing for their main FC materials. Very little of the freed up personal housing would go to genuine FCs and not shell FCs. On Louisoix I believe someone I used to be friends with has 20 shell FCs (plus the main FC), each with a house. And she could just get even more accounts for even more shell FCs if it came to it (and knowing her, she would). So that wouldn't solve much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yllania View Post
    Why do you think making it so players cant get homes is better than having a guild hall instead of making fcs have to buy a house.

    Why can't I get a house because youre mad at bots and cheaters.
    Why should guilds that need the houses for housing-locked guild features get beaten out by the same bots and cheaters as well as people that don't get anything from houses they couldn't already get from readily available housing facilities that are already present in apartments or from their own guilds?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeva View Post
    Why should guilds that need the houses for housing-locked guild features get beaten out by the same bots and cheaters as well as people that don't get anything from houses they couldn't already get from readily available housing facilities that are already present in apartments or from their own guilds?
    I'm not saying you should be? I keep suggesting making fcs their own system because making them have to compete with single players was weird in the first place, only my suggestion wouldn't take something away from players to do it.

    Why are you married to the idea of taking something away from everyone because you can't get an fc house.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aeva View Post
    Why should guilds that need the houses for housing-locked guild features get beaten out by the same bots and cheaters as well as people that don't get anything from houses they couldn't already get from readily available housing facilities that are already present in apartments or from their own guilds?
    One of the other issues with housing is the bonuses don't expand to fit the fc. A 1 person fc with a large house and a 500 person fc with a house both have access to a max of 4 airships/submersibles and 3 garden plots. Because of the time and rng involved, someone in a larger fc may never even get a chance to utilize the garden for say crossbreeding minions or perhaps something like dragon peppers that can take up to 22 days to grow after all the crossbreeding (that's IF using multiple garden plots and removing longer growing plants after the shorter ones are done to re-use the plot). So by restricting the housing to FC only you would effectively punish those joining larger fcs.
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    People are complaining enough as it is of the lack of true FC content, so i think we can do without housing being for FC only, which would only be an incentive for players to massively leave the FC they are in, to create/buy a shell one and get their very one house they can decorate and use as they want. Being a normal member of a FC isn't supposed to be some kind of "no true housing for you lol !" punishment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thamorian View Post
    It would make it more fair between those trying to get a house. If Person A is on a PS4 and person B is on PC with a macro keyboard
    How would a macro be able to cycle through a placard? You have to either mouse over yes or hit left on a gamepad on the last frame to hit yes. I play on controller and have found macros for anything to be meh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanctify View Post
    How would a macro be able to cycle through a placard? You have to either mouse over yes or hit left on a gamepad on the last frame to hit yes. I play on controller and have found macros for anything to be meh
    third party ones. Think like the companion software for gaming companies like Corsair, Razer, etc. Some can even tell you where to move the mouse cursor to and press the mouse button.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spiroglyph View Post
    Boi if you got kicked for the same thing in over 20 duties I strongly suggest you think hard on whatever the hell it is you're doing

    As I'm sure you are well aware, it takes more than one person to be able to kick a player from a duty, so in all those instances there were at least two people agreeing they'd be better off without you tanking.

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