Housing Issues

[Mailevelant]

As others have commented in this chain, it is less about the housing thing for me personally. It is more about Square Enix's complete lack of response to something that they knew was going to be an issue. They know people are botting to buy houses and they blatantly do nothing about it even though it violates the terms of the agreement for the game.

They instituted a ridiculous timing system to force people to spend hours upon hours waiting for a house to be available. If they did them in a true auction style fashion, then there wouldn't be an issue. You bid high enough, you get the land. Players on Playstation 4 are getting shafted because they have to spend hours and hours getting hand cramps and possibly carpal tunnel, just to try and land a house. PC users can just throw on a bot and land a house easily without even being on their machine.

No, we didn't have to move from the server, if we wanted to deal with "derping role players" but when your entire Free Company decides that it is the best course of action, you either go and get shafted by a broken housing system or be left to play on a server with none of your friends there with you, making it that much harder to get certain quests and achievements done.

[Sunoske]

As others have commented in this chain, it is less about the housing thing for me personally. It is more about Square Enix's complete lack of response to something that they knew was going to be an issue. They know people are botting to buy houses and they blatantly do nothing about it even though it violates the terms of the agreement for the game.

They instituted a ridiculous timing system to force people to spend hours upon hours waiting for a house to be available. If they did them in a true auction style fashion, then there wouldn't be an issue. You bid high enough, you get the land. Players on Playstation 4 are getting shafted because they have to spend hours and hours getting hand cramps and possibly carpal tunnel, just to try and land a house. PC users can just throw on a bot and land a house easily without even being on their machine.

No, we didn't have to move from the server, if we wanted to deal with "derping role players" but when your entire Free Company decides that it is the best course of action, you either go and get shafted by a broken housing system or be left to play on a server with none of your friends there with you, making it that much harder to get certain quests and achievements done.

Square does take action against botters if you report them. Once more I'm hearing nothing from you but shifting blame and salt. As it's been shown over the years, (Coming from someone who has played this game since the beginning.) They will speak up and do something once more than just the NA or EU player base says something, do you just expect them to answer every crying person because they feel entitled?

To implement an auction system would completely ruin the point of housing and the system they have in place. When people are having to pay well over what the plot is worth just to own it, less people would even have houses, that's not really a good replacement system. They made it this way so people couldn't flip houses for godly amounts of gil, which sucks yes and its not perfect, but tbh no game is perfect. At the end of the day its a game and if you have a life you wouldn't be crying in forums over something so silly. Friends can still be chatted with via discord, new friends and fcs can always be found. Grow up.

[Kleeya]

They instituted a ridiculous timing system to force people to spend hours upon hours waiting for a house to be available. If they did them in a true auction style fashion, then there wouldn't be an issue. You bid high enough, you get the land.

Seems like that despite being an IT professionnal you can have half baked ideas as well, since such a system would only aggravate RMT (real money trading) problems in the game XD

[Atheena]

Seems like that despite being an IT professionnal you can have half baked ideas as well, since such a system would only aggravate RMT (real money trading) problems in the game XD

Not really. As long as the Auction is controlled by them (SE) with them making housing Rare/Exclusive to your account/character, then that would combat RMT. If a player loses the house by not logging in, then SE can retain ownership after demolition. Have the Auction opened for a certain amount of hours like 4 and have no limit on how much that person pays for it. RMT's wont spend too much for it if it'sd rare/exclusive, that cuts into their gil that they could sell. Thery could also do like how the government gets contractors, take the 3 lowest tier, 3 mid tier, or 3 highest tier bids and have a bid off amongst those 3 to purchase. They could also do a first time buyers program for those who have never owned a house and make it soo they can't transfer plots for a year. Also when you auction for a house that money is tied up like a deposit if in the tier of 3.

[van_arn]

Not really. As long as the Auction is controlled by them (SE) with them making housing Rare/Exclusive to your account/character, then that would combat RMT. If a player loses the house by not logging in, then SE can retain ownership after demolition. Have the Auction opened for a certain amount of hours like 4 and have no limit on how much that person pays for it. RMT's wont spend too much for it if it'sd rare/exclusive, that cuts into their gil that they could sell. Thery could also do like how the government gets contractors, take the 3 lowest tier, 3 mid tier, or 3 highest tier bids and have a bid off amongst those 3 to purchase. They could also do a first time buyers program for those who have never owned a house and make it soo they can't transfer plots for a year. Also when you auction for a house that money is tied up like a deposit if in the tier of 3.

Not only that, but if you transfer your plot-- make it so rather than a flat 30% of the estate's value transfers, make it so you get the base value of your previous plot. You could spend 60 million on a small, and only get 4 million out of that when you transfer to medium or large.

That's 56 million gil just set on fire, which is absolutely beautiful if you want gil to become more scarce.

Bringing RMT in it, that's 56 million a player purchased through illegitimate means getting set on fire. RMT deterrent, supply/demand stabilization, and inflation protection all wrapped into one system.

Let's be honest though, a house on Balmung is worth more than 4 million. An auction system could be the healthiest way to resolve the system, without encouraging people to engage in unhealthy camping. The flipside could be if you want a cheap house, you'd be tempted to transfer to a server with lower population-- especially with the world visit system in place.

[Krotoan]

Not only that, but if you transfer your plot-- make it so rather than a flat 30% of the estate's value transfers, make it so you get the base value of your previous plot. You could spend 60 million on a small, and only get 4 million out of that when you transfer to medium or large.

That's 56 million gil just set on fire, which is absolutely beautiful if you want gil to become more scarce.

Bringing RMT in it, that's 56 million a player purchased through illegitimate means getting set on fire. RMT deterrent, supply/demand stabilization, and inflation protection all wrapped into one system.

Let's be honest though, a house on Balmung is worth more than 4 million. An auction system could be the healthiest way to resolve the system, without encouraging people to engage in unhealthy camping.

The problem is you're making large amounts of Gil necessary. People will BUY the gil from farmers, facilitating RMT.

Also you're unfairly giving buying power to those who stockpile gil. most players hover at sub medium house price levels of gil on any given character, how would a new player ever hope to compete with someone who's been in game from day one playing the markets?

[van_arn]

The problem is you're making large amounts of Gil necessary. People will BUY the gil from farmers, facilitating RMT.

Also you're unfairly giving buying power to those who stockpile gil. most players hover at sub medium house price levels of gil on any given character, how would a new player ever hope to compete with someone who's been in game from day one playing the markets?

Not everyone should have a house. Those that stockpile gil should be rewarded, and those that RMT should be banned.

Housing affords SE a fantastic honeypot to lure people into a large purchase that they can track the source of. If it's legitimate, then welcome to your new house. Otherwise, the plot's open again.

At the very least, housing is too cheap with all of the people I see camping at placards. Even if an auction system is not added, the starting prices do need to be raised substantially to discourage this unhealthy camping. Camping which is only as popular as it is because too many people can participate in it.

[Krotoan]

If it's a blind auction with random 3 buyers then no, How much gil you have will be worthless. Also forgot to add you can only do bids on one property at a time.

you can almost guarantee you will win if you are able to bid 100+ mil. Not worthless.

Not everyone should have a house. Those that stockpile gil should be rewarded

sorry, you won't ever get agreement from me or many others on this.
All aspects of this game should be available to those who wish to experience them, not only those those have hours and hours to invest.
The game is decidedly geared toward being able to pickup and play and put down when bored.

[Atheena]

The problem is you're making large amounts of Gil necessary. People will BUY the gil from farmers, facilitating RMT.

Also you're unfairly giving buying power to those who stockpile gil. most players hover at sub medium house price levels of gil on any given character, how would a new player ever hope to compete with someone who's been in game from day one playing the markets?

If it's a blind auction with random 3 buyers then no, How much gil you have will be worthless. Also forgot to add you can only do bids on one property at a time.