Dev Requests Housing Timers

[Kaoru_Nagisa]

The problem is not the missing housing, but the people that choose to play in the most crowded servers of the universe and still pretending to have easy access to limited resource as housing.

My server had (and still have) free plots here and there for months but meh, mine is not the "coolest" server so the people thinking they only must play in the "elite" servers won't get here but are vocal about no housing in their servers.

Excuse some of us for having to go where certain things are (roleplay, for instance) - or even more, people who have been on certain high-pop servers since 1.0 that have numerous friends and accomplishments on said server and wish to remain where all those are?

They need to allocate resources for these things on a per-server basis. Or just make better resources.

[Kuo]

I have been trying to get a house since transferring to midgard and have been having not much because of the timer. I saw a house that devalued 3 times and still did not was still not able to sell. It seems most of the ones that i have been trying for have had very long timers. The RNG timer is too long.

[supergiz]

A big part of the problem is that while not everyone does this, a large amount of players use macros or bots for 20 plus hours on houses.

No player in their right mind is going to stand there for 20 plus hours manually clicking on the plaque when competing against someone who is likely running a bot clicking that same plaque every 2 seconds.

Other than periodically checking for non camped houses in the middle of the night, I'm waiting for this system to change. It's embarrassing for a AAA company to have a ridiculous system like this.

[Kazrah]

Excuse some of us for having to go where certain things are (roleplay, for instance) - or even more, people who have been on certain high-pop servers since 1.0 that have numerous friends and accomplishments on said server and wish to remain where all those are?

They need to allocate resources for these things on a per-server basis. Or just make better resources.

Um, you do realize that Balmung's not the only RP server (#mateussayshi), and that The World Visit system is a thing now? Not only that, but the World Visit system was designed exclusively to eliminate any actual excuse people had for staying on overpopulated servers. Hell, the reason why I transferred to Malboro is because I have friends on Balmung, and now I can use that World Visit system to see them whenever I want and not have to deal with ludicrous login queues or no signs of available housing ever for years.

As for the OP's idea, I definitely approve as someone who waited 12 hours in front of a housing plot to no avail and just by the grace of god getting lucky enough to get a plot late that night. Either availability timers need to happen or we need a dev statement with a REALLY good argument as to why the system has been seemingly designed without factoring in any level of negatively-induced player behavior whether it be waiting almost a full day for plots, using bots or other ToS violations to get plots, or even how a single player can transfer plots to potentially keep multiple plots out of the hands of players wanting to buy a home.

[Akonyl]

Um, you do realize that Balmung's not the only RP server (#mateussayshi), and that The World Visit system is a thing now? Not only that, but the World Visit system was designed exclusively to eliminate any actual excuse people had for staying on overpopulated servers. Hell, the reason why I transferred to Malboro is because I have friends on Balmung, and now I can use that World Visit system to see them whenever I want and not have to deal with ludicrous login queues or no signs of available housing ever for years.

I don't really buy the reasoning that there's no reason to live on a high pop server because you can just live on a low pop server and then go to a high pop one to hang out with your actual friends. It's a visit system, not a temporary home system, and while you're visiting you can't use the most common method of social communication (linkshells), and can't put things up for sale either, among other more minor limitations

If you have a bunch of friends on a populated server, transferring to a less populated one just to get a house and then Visiting the other server for 90% of your playtime and locking yourself out of the usage of all linkshells isn't really a suitable alternative. The fact that it was enough for your specific situation is different from it being something acceptable to all players.

[Euphonius_Ticklebum]

They really need to change this system, I just finished camping for 10 hours and lost the plot to someone who was there for 2 hours, don't get me wrong I am not angry at the person for winning it, my grievance is that the time people have spent waiting was all for nothing. In a game where your designed to grind for rewards, sitting for multiple hours on the same spot and not getting anything just doesn't fit right. Surely Square can see that people are getting frustrated with this system.

On the other hand I think if they made housing available for everyone it would kind of lose its value in a way, they had to know the way they designed these internal timers would upset a lot of people, they have to know that people will actually wait it out to get that house. For a game that tries to accommodate everyone and promote a good social environment (Eg. no PvP Ganking, Damage meters), I think they failed very hard with housing. That was the first time I have done that and I can only imagine people that have tried multiple times waiting for a chance at a property, if you have then let me know how long you waited for!

In the end it just didn't sit right with me so I have decided to cancel my account. I hope Square does something to fix this and hope for everyone else trying that they get their house in game : )

[TaranTatsuuchi]

Would rather they just fix the overall problem which is not enough housing for everyone. I can think of six other MMORPGs off the top of my head that managed to provide every single player with the option to own a house. What's SE's excuse?

The initial problem was that they open the previously FC only Wards for personal housing.


Previously the wards were FC only, and they were much more expensive.

The devs went on record saying that personal housing would be a different system and it would be cheaper...



Instead of creating another system, like the apartments we now have, they instead just let players by FC Wards for personal housing.

I suspect we would be in a better place if they had made the apartments way back then.

[LalaRu]

Excuse some of us for having to go where certain things are (roleplay, for instance) - or even more, people who have been on certain high-pop servers since 1.0 that have numerous friends and accomplishments on said server and wish to remain where all those are?

That means, you people were not addressed by my previous statement: I were talking of people who choose to get in the crowd knowing it beforehand.

People that found their perfectly normal server, crowded later, have no guilt on it. Maybe I've had to say it more clearly. Sorry.

[Kuo]

As for the OP's idea, I definitely approve as someone who waited 12 hours in front of a housing plot to no avail and just by the grace of god getting lucky enough to get a plot late that night. Either availability timers need to happen or we need a dev statement with a REALLY good argument as to why the system has been seemingly designed without factoring in any level of negatively-induced player behavior whether it be waiting almost a full day for plots, using bots or other ToS violations to get plots, or even how a single player can transfer plots to potentially keep multiple plots out of the hands of players wanting to buy a home.

It would be nice to get a statement about this or get the timer shown. clicking on the placard for 8+ hours is not fun at all. Right now its more like Absolute Virtue/Pandemonium Warden 2.0

[Kuo]

this rng timer is not fun. Dont understand why this rng timer has to be so long. It makes getting a house very discouraging.

Yesterday i saw a character that seem to be a very obvious bot, they where clicking on the placard even after they got the house continuously.