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    Player Veis_Alveare's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    look up the origins lol

    Spears are just pole with sharp in which was female druids original weapons.

    Rogue do i even need 2 explain.

    Archer again mostly requires Agility not strength just agility and Acrobats again in orgin terms males didn't have.

    Gunner is a medium can go both ways so ill give u that.


    dancer do i rlly need 2 explain the only male dancers in orgins were a fire dancers.

    Mages well robes alone just prove femine jobs lol

    this aren't opinions facts by the origins of the job that predate ff.
    What origins are you attempting to talk about?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
    What origins are you attempting to talk about?
    in all games jobs follow a orgin based on whatever but i use D&D one of the first rp based games


    but even if u go into Mythology for it this orgins hold true.

    the greatest mages in mythology were 3 sisters. Priestess aka healers again always female.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    in all games jobs follow a orgin based on whatever but i use D&D one of the first rp based games
    Okay so general mythos - well then pretty much everyone would be male.

    In terms of the start of Fantasy as a genre you've got Tolkien and let's just say it doesn't seem like he liked girls much. Archers? Elves, and at least a seemingly egalitarian society in a lot of ways... but the famous one in terms of combat, especially archery, is Legolas - a man.

    Swordplay/close range combat in general? I can't think of a single woman that participates, honestly, even with a dagger. I guess you could count the hobbit's shortswords as daggers but they're all guys too.

    Magic? You've got Gandalf and the other wizards, Sauron, more elves... with the exception of Galadriel who I don't believe engages in combat in the books the only people who work magic at all are men.

    The point of this ted talk about books I haven't read in like 15 years is that this concept of gendering jobs based on some kind of origin myth is stupid and outdated, stop furthering it. It didn't matter then and it certainly doesn't matter now.

    In the immortal words of one Michael Jordan, "Stop it, get some help."
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    So Gandolf was feminine? Is that what I'm reading here? I guess I'll have to think that next time I read/watch Lord of the Rings.

    Original job idea, very interesting and could be very well balanced with split/mirrored damage like that. It would come down of course to all the skills that SE decided to give it, as they've already teased puppet master.
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    there is a feminine side to the healers
    but other than that every other job is pretty neutral bit of a stretch other wise
    id like a healer that has some angst to it though just for something different from other healers like mad scientist or a plague doctor kinda deal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Veis_Alveare View Post
    Okay so general mythos - well then pretty much everyone would be male.

    In terms of the start of Fantasy as a genre you've got Tolkien and let's just say it doesn't seem like he liked girls much. Archers? Elves, and at least a seemingly egalitarian society in a lot of ways... but the famous one in terms of combat, especially archery, is Legolas - a man.

    Swordplay/close range combat in general? I can't think of a single woman that participates, honestly, even with a dagger. I guess you could count the hobbit's shortswords as daggers but they're all guys too.

    Magic? You've got Gandalf and the other wizards, Sauron, more elves... with the exception of Galadriel who I don't believe engages in combat in the books the only people who work magic at all are men.

    The point of this ted talk about books I haven't read in like 15 years is that this concept of gendering jobs based on some kind of origin myth is stupid and outdated, stop furthering it. It didn't matter then and it certainly doesn't matter now.

    In the immortal words of one Michael Jordan, "Stop it, get some help."
    research greek mythology lol more exact Hekates followers

    and even more modern ones strongest witch was morgana

    also the greek god of war was a goddess mostly using bows.

    greek witch circe again Femine strongest mage.


    i guess for dancer u could use Xena maybe also very very few males used anything outside swords and axes in anything
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    Does anyone ever realize they're basically talking to a wall?

    I'm gonna go have a good cold drink, this is just too stupid for me to deal with.

    Good luck with your class, OP. Sorry to derail your thread for... that.
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    Healers don’t have to be feminine.
    Minwu from FF2
    Any other White Mage before FF14 gave them flower power.
    Ignis in FF15 is the de facto healer of the party and he’s not feminine.

    They managed to make Dancer gender neutral so why not a healer?
    I’d be happy if they just removed lilies from WHM and changed its animations to something other than ballerina twirls, and same for AST, and give Fairy glamours to SCH to replace them with moogles.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Healers don’t have to be feminine.
    Minwu from FF2
    Any other White Mage before FF14 gave them flower power.
    Ignis in FF15 is the de facto healer of the party and he’s not feminine.

    They managed to make Dancer gender neutral so why not a healer?
    I’d be happy if they just removed lilies from WHM and changed its animations to something other than ballerina twirls, and same for AST, and give Fairy glamours to SCH to replace them with moogles.
    ur joking right 15 was completely boy love type of game like yuri on ice anime all guys in a car just screams Bl
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    Quote Originally Posted by MorbolvampireQueen6 View Post
    ur joking right 15 was completely boy love type of game like yuri on ice anime all guys in a car just screams Bl
    I mean, even if this was true, which it's not, a gay relationship is by definition twice as masculine as a straight one. XD
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