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    Mikki's Avatar
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    Honestly, I wish they'd just remove the timers altogether. It punishes people who are trying to get an honest house for the first time more than it stops any resellers. People still sell houses with absolutely no issue. And people who flip houses might be more likely to use bots to get a house in the first place, placing those honest people at yet another disadvantage.

    Terrible system imo. I think one house per server was enough to combat the issue, personally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mikki View Post
    Honestly, I wish they'd just remove the timers altogether. It punishes people who are trying to get an honest house for the first time more than it stops any resellers. People still sell houses with absolutely no issue. And people who flip houses might be more likely to use bots to get a house in the first place, placing those honest people at yet another disadvantage.

    Terrible system imo. I think one house per server was enough to combat the issue, personally.
    It is on those servers where there are enough houses for the players who want a house. It's not on the worlds where player population is far greater than the number of houses available.

    If SE was able to expand wards dynamically on a per server basis, the problem would partially disappear since they could just add another ward to a specific server when the number of houses available reaches some minimum amount. It still wouldn't address the demand for more medium and large houses, though.

    I'm genuinely hoping that they'll be introducing a better instanced housing system next expansion and not just a new district that will operate the way wards currently do. We'll have to wait and see what they have planned.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jojoya View Post
    It is on those servers where there are enough houses for the players who want a house. It's not on the worlds where player population is far greater than the number of houses available.

    If SE was able to expand wards dynamically on a per server basis, the problem would partially disappear since they could just add another ward to a specific server when the number of houses available reaches some minimum amount. It still wouldn't address the demand for more medium and large houses, though.

    I'm genuinely hoping that they'll be introducing a better instanced housing system next expansion and not just a new district that will operate the way wards currently do. We'll have to wait and see what they have planned.
    Sorry, I meant to combat the issue of resellers, not the issue of housing as a whole.
    But to clarify: There would still be resellers but I don't think that the timers have a sizable impact on it. I think that the restriction of 1 house per server was what had the huge impact. Housing on a timer helps no one. And, if you ever do check out housing markets, these days prices are quite reasonable - unlike before the change where smalls were going for as much as 100mil. I've seen several people selling at cost just to recoup their losses.

    In terms of the issue of housing as a whole? Yeah, the system is garbage. I wish they'd make instanced housing (Apartments) better - allow for bigger spaces (as big as mansions) and a small backyard space like is seen at the Kugane Inn room (but allow it to be accessible) and allow FCs to use them. They could even keep the current system in addition to this and everything would be pretty fantastic. They have all the pieces, they're just refusing to put them together for who knows what reason. Or, maybe make apartments personal housing + FC housing and the current ward system FC only - but that would make everyone mad, I'm sure. So probably not the best idea. Certainly cleaner, though.
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    Last edited by Mikki; 04-24-2019 at 06:59 PM.


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    Definitely need to do something about the timers camped one for 10 hours yesterday to lose it due to needing toilet >_> then camped next one for 4 hours till decided had enough needed sleep woke up to see it gone now at a 3rd house waiting for maintainence yet due to how PS4 version is updated i most likely lose this one because copying files takes forever dammit SE giving unfair advantage to PC players >_>
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    What likely happened is they didn’t actually own a house they were just trying to make you think they did so you would leave and they managed win get first click after the timer ended, I would still report it for harassment though
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    I'm all for new wards if the servers can handle them of course.

    That said, I have no problem with people being able to transfer into plots. The idea as I understand it is it allows people who have housing to 'move up' so to speak, moving to more desired or larger plots, while still leaving an empty plot in their wake for a player or FC without housing.
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    id have to wonder how the data centers/servers would handle it now with the shift into multiple- on EU and on NA. granted we now have world visit which will add burden on the server, but is the world transfer going to take up the same burden the loss of 33% of a data center would free up?
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    What SE needs to do is end personal housing in wards and make personal instanced housing for everyone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rangar View Post
    What SE needs to do is end personal housing in wards and make personal instanced housing for everyone
    I'm kind of hoping they do that with Ishgard.
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    Wubrant Drakesbane
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rangar View Post
    What SE needs to do is end personal housing in wards and make personal instanced housing for everyone
    I would /love/ a personal zone and I think once people tried a Wildstar like system many would like it more too (where you can customize more than you can with our current system, and there are less limitations because you don't share visual space) but..... there are people who would NOT like losing their neighborhood. I think therefore it would be important to keep the wards, but allow people to transfer their house into the instanced zone if they wish (relinquishing their lot in the ward). If enough people transfer over to collapse down the system into fewer wards then that can be done, but I'd like to see the housing system leave the salt era not trade types of salt XD.

    Unless by end you mean end adding wards or at least take a break from that and add/expand another system (add airships, personal zone, greatly expanded apartment system, something), in which case full agree with every ounce of desire I can muster. I am not impressed with the ward system, am impressed with the decoration items though (which is why I want to see a system that has more power to the player).
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    Last edited by Shougun; 04-25-2019 at 03:09 AM.

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