BRD: Is THM sub useful?

[Choyi]

I'm not talking about CNJ. I was referring to THM in my OP.

So we are left with Resonance and Necrogenenis.

Will BRD really be nuking with THM spell for HP back? It's equivalent to using Second Wind, so I could see it as useful as an emergency heal.

Thing is you can't realy single out how THM abilites and how exactly useful they will be without looking at the whole picture, you will 3-4 abilites set from CNJ that will irreplacable in most scenarions in the BRDs role of support.

Look at PLD, it can use MRD abilites of which there are only 1 thats realy usefull for the role of the PLD.
Our choices of crossclass abilites overall is very limited(and thats the idea), but like stated many times in this thread; there are plenty of abilites to fill up your 5 slots with, BRD even having a good selection to choose from.

Can't expect every crossability to be usefull thats not how crossclassing for jobs is intended by design.

[Quatre]

I'm not talking about CNJ. I was referring to THM in my OP.

So we are left with Resonance and Necrogenenis.

Will BRD really be nuking with THM spell for HP back? It's equivalent to using Second Wind, so I could see it as useful as an emergency heal.



I said "sub class" in my OP, even placed it in quotations. Not sure if your nitpicking, but sure.



That's interesting. If BRD in fact has high mage oriented stats [PIE, MND, INT] as you have mentioned then perhaps the class is optimized for THM offensive magic afterall. It is weird, but SE seems to be breaking the mold anyways. Where did you get that information? I would like to see it myself so that I may show my friend.

It was a very under-the radar change. During the Class Reform in 1.20, Archers mage stats got boosted surprisingly higher than any of the other melee classes, particularly it's Piety, This is also the reason for ARCs in your party having a much higher MP pool than other melee classes.. Partly it's because Shadowbind and Bloodletter is reliant on Piety, but I believe it's also in preparation for the Bard Job.

Naked except for rings I have 256 PTY, 210 MND and 172 INT on my ARC.

Whereas my THM has 254 PTY, 240 MND, 256 INT.


I'm assuming stats may change with a job stone, but that may not be true. Although this just furthers this OP's arguement that THM is a useless sub ( Damage wise ) Since their mage stats are high but their nuking mage stat is still low.

[Quatre]

BRD Seems to have high mage stats in addition to it's melee stats, so i find it completely reasonable that a bard will be able to equip nukes from the classes to supplement it's damage capabilities, or support/ buff abilities to further help that role.

[NoctisUmbra]

For BRD I'd go with

Cure
Sacred Prism
Stoneskin
Sanguine Rite
Raise

It's worth noting that BRD will be the only job capable of tossing out an AoE Sanguine Rite.

[Mujo]

Exactly, AoE Sanguine Rite is BRD only now. Keeping that on the PLD is also one of the most important role BRD will be playing, IMO.

[Mister-Wonderful]

Sanguine Rite only lasts 20 seconds, and is marginal MP, unless you plan on taking a very large hit. The best part of sanguine rite is lost when it is used on anything but a THM (Damage Reduction 25%), and Bard will have a song for MP that will probably(we'll see) be much more potent than sanguine rite in MP restoration. It will still have uses, (Example: raising while being attacked, no interuption) but hardly vital to the party/tank. I'll more than Likely continue to use my Sacred prism on Cures or Stoneskin.

[IStolzI]

only job that can use sacred prism+sanguine rite. Is it super useful for yourself no but itd be nice to hook up your pt with at certain times i.e. before a primal 2h

[Tatsuguy]

Not the best, but i'll take it.

[Mirana]

Why not? you can nuke , you can cure , you can sing and that's why you'll be welcome to every party.

Try think about BRD with 5 slot - Cure , Sacred Prism , Raise , Sanguine Rite ,
and last one maybe thunder or stone skin , since VIT is kinda make more effect on buff
ie. GLA use stone/protect you'll get a little bit more def than CON protect , but of course it's not increase m.def
this theory goes the same to stone skin as well

It's mean that you can also do dmg , you can cast stoneskin when WHM one is on cool down
and also can Sanguine Rite to all party members to restore mp along with the song

You know the most of ARC from my server put thunder on the bar when we're doing Moogle
cuz you can cast Thunder while animation of Wide Volley & Blood letter is still show
so after the animation of these 2 skill finish Thunder will be instantly executed.

[AmyNeudaiz]

GLA use stone/protect you'll get a little bit more def than CON protect

No, just no.