Destroying Server Economies

[Nixxe]

Is there a generally regarded "normal" price for stuff like crafted gear and infusions?

Because 200K for the former and 2.5K for the latter feels like it's leaning into the "not profitable for people who don't bot" territory to me.

Potions and raid food aren't worth it except maybe right when they first come out. It simply takes too much time to craft enough of them. I'd do 200k on Balmung for crafted gear if I was bored though. Mats generally cost 60-70k to buy off the MB, so you can still get a decent margin. They're just not the best use of time, but typically I want a mix of slower and faster selling things anyway, so if I'm playing the game a lot, I'll do more inefficient things without a second thought.

[Kuroka]

On another note on my wifes twink i saw an rmt bot from another world running around... like they did not limit the trial version on that?

[LaylaTsarra]

On the other hand, new players are seeing prices for basic gear and items go from exorbitant back down to something reasonable.

I bought 380 weapons on Fairie this morning for 3 of my off roles for under 200k each. They were the cheapest and I checked a number of different servers. It's so easy to sit in Limsa and World Travel and then run over to the MB and check the prices. Now I need to farm some mendacity to upgrade them to 390.

[technole]

I like to believe that Square Enix has destroyed individual server economies now. i'm an omnicrafter on Diabolos, and no one is going to buy things for the prices crafters have set here because you can get it cheaper on Balmung. It's a HUGE slap to the face. This is the ONLY thing I'm upset about with the update, otherwise the world visiting system is great.

I'm glad we popped that bubble you live in. Gilgamesh was usually around 20% less than other smaller servers simply because there are more end-game crafters to set lower prices.

[Angelov-Mercy]

I discovered another crazy scheme, while waiting for queue during the Hildibrand series, I discovered a full team of possibly bots that would appear together and vanish every few seconds.

[manickitty]

I discovered another crazy scheme, while waiting for queue during the Hildibrand series, I discovered a full team of possibly bots that would appear together and vanish every few seconds.

These are bots. Make sure to report them. I do everytime I see them. If they disappear too fast, open the report page, then right click "Send Tell" and just copypaste the name into the report, because it's usually a bunch of random characters. I also send about 10 bot names per report.

[Liam_Harper]

And I don't want to pay outrageous prices for raid food and potions which go for like a mil for a stack of 99 on my server. Get wrecked greedy crafters. Maybe now you'll charge for the actual product instead of thinkin you're an artisan.

To be fair, 1 mil for 100 potions isn't much. You need 2 different timed nodes, herbs, then Aethersand from desynthing 450+ collectibility items. You then need a lv70 endgame pentamelded crafter with Master Recipe 6 learned and then crafting a full stack of 99 can take up to an hour. It's not terribly difficult, but it takes some time.

Each craft is a measly 30k. Personally I think non-crafters are the greedy ones for expecting someones time and effort for far cheaper than that.

That's not to say it's unfair prices have dropped lower. I'm fine with that, it's supply and demand and if enough crafters are willing to take less gil due to competition, that's fair. But in the same way if prices skyrocket it's because the vast majority of players can't be bothered going through the effort of crafting their own items and demand far exceeds competition. In that case, high prices are very fair. If you want a highly sought after item (or one in low supply) without any work, you pay the price.

[Insertcoins]

Im happy for world visit cause now things are going down in price and I can buy things now. Best thing ever, also friends can now visit places and hang out without needing to transfer all the time.

[KageTokage]

So far, the only thing I've noticed as far as prices go is that the gear and infusion prices on my server have tanked even harder after the resident bot farmers noticed that Gilgamesh was selling at even lower prices then them.

I am, however, selling my furniture and glam items quicker then ever, so there's that, at least.

I discovered another crazy scheme, while waiting for queue during the Hildibrand series, I discovered a full team of possibly bots that would appear together and vanish every few seconds.

This has been going on for years now. They're just gil farming bots who amass millions from completing the MSQ and spamming dungeons then try to sell it off before they inevitably get purged (They hack to speed things along which has the side effect of getting them banned rather quickly...if once a week can be considered quick).

You probably just happened to never be in the right place at the right time to see them until now.

I consider those guys less of the problem then the bots actively manipulating the economy, though.

[MOZZYSTAR]

Hey, I just moved to Diabolos. \ o /
The prices on Diabolos were honestly a slap to the face. I think they were more expensive (by three times or so) than my previous two servers, though some items were surprisingly roughly the same price as Balmung and other servers.

Because I had no life (just kidding, I was avoiding the study for finals), I went to every server to cross reference expensive items so my money would go farther. If Diabolos (home world) was basically the same price (even if it was a couple thousand more), I would buy from homeworld to help with the economy. If the items were significantly cheaper, I'd buy through other worlds. I found out in my search that Balmung is definitely not always cheaper. Sometimes Diabolos was the cheapest (but rarely), sometimes Malboro, Brynhildr, Zalera, or Mateus were the cheapest, for select items, etc. etc., but rarely. It really does depend on the item in question.

That being said, I suspect that all the servers' markets will need to adapt in order to thrive. Either Balmung will get more expensive, the other servers will get cheaper, or they'll all meet partway with time. As I'm sure you know, markets tend to fluctuate all the time for better or for worse and this is just a part of that. Start comparing prices to other worlds (even if it's just Balmung) to get a foot in the competition.