Destroying Server Economies

[KageTokage]

Have a feeling they are working towards systems in the expansion that make botting much harder to do especially with Crafters. They hinted at an endgame crafting system that's the equivalent of raids. Will be interesting to see what they come up with.

I'd like to hope, but I seriously doubt it if they can't even tell that someone who literally never logs off and is always crafting and/or gathering is botting.

[Krotoan]

Exactly, people keep repeating that gil is useless but really gil is the currency of convenience and time. You can rush level all your crafters in a month or less with sufficient gil, as an example of a lengthy grind which can be avoided with piles of gil.

Great.. you have Max level crafters quickly.. for.. what?

Also, there's this argument that people are mad because their profits are being cut. Sure, there are some people who used to charge absurd prices on lesser populated servers that are mad.

But for crafters like me who are from servers like Balmung, I'm more concerned about bot farms/botters who drive prices so low, no legitimate player wants to compete.

For example gathering bots, even before World Visit, there are well-known gathering bots on Balmung, who gather nearly 24/7. You can tell by the way they drop down on nodes and the janky movement.

They price the stuff that they gather sometimes below 100 gil per item and we are not talking about low level gathering nodes here.

So legitimate gatherers usually try to find other stuff to gather/other niche items and pray that the bots don't catch on. But these niche items end up being temporary and the bots eventually always start gathering those as well.

Then some of the legitimate gatherers move on to crafting and flipping etc. But eventually the impact of botting is felt there as well. E.g. well known crafters who bot.

So.. the price of the harvestable crafting mats becomes generally near Vendor sell prices (if you see someone selling items below vendor prices you should buy them and vendor them for a profit!). And all the crafters out there can now craft items for reasonable mat prices and charge for the HQrotation/time it takes alone.

I really am not on board with the idea that gathering classes are just made to rake in money for putting in time and cycling nodes.

Also, it's not like these bots are just driving prices low, they are often engaged in RMT.

With World Visit, if bot farms/botters are not adequately addressed, we might see legitimate crafters/gatherers driven out from the Market Board and the 'competition' for pricing between bot retainers.

RMT is not our problem, it's Squeenix's. It affects individual , rule abiding players very little.

Driven out... to.. what? Not craft anymore because it's not profitable? Stop the goal of having a huge pile of gil.. for.. reasons?

[KageTokage]

I honestly almost never see the bots on my server trying to sell crafting materials or shards.

If they're gathering, they're either funneling the mats to a DoH bot or they're gathering them for their own crafts.

That said, they aren't always doing new crafters a favor.

[Shougun]

I honestly almost never see the bots on my server trying to sell crafting materials or shards.

If they're gathering, they're either funneling the mats to a DoH bot or they're gathering them for their own crafts.

That said, they aren't always doing new crafters a favor.

Not sure at how many but it seems they're a bit better at hiding these days, sometimes if you have the auto camera thing up (sort of pans around random things near you, makes a fun screensaver sort of experience) you'll see them talking to NPC under the ground lol.

[RareItems]

Players wont check all servers for the cheapest, they'll prob just check 1 server aside from their home world. And currently that server is Balmung xD.

[Aurelius2625]

Bruh, if I can server hop to get rep. dreadwyrm or primal weaps, or RAID FOOD AND POTS which cost millions of gil... I will...

[Destati]

As someone with alts outside of Balmung, I'm all for it. I hate how expensive things can get on other servers when they're much cheaper on Balmung, so it'll be nice to see things balance out if they do.
Until then...
Come to Balmung my wandering friends, buy my things... Au Ra has wares if you have gil.

[gumas]

should be like this for a few week, after that things should balance by itself. once people know that (let say) balmung has cheaper stuff, either they will increase the price itself or other server will lower it down.

in the end things should back to normal after a few week

[Ssmiley_Bjakkzz]

im glad this happen, now everyone has afford to buy anything on the market, keep it up!

[Lersayil]

As someone from a cheaper world I welcome our price gouged brothers from less populated servers!

For anyone that doesn't do MB flipping or omni-crafting as a main activity, this should be a good news. I am of the opinion that the non-crafter, non-gillionaire population shouldn't be exluded from the majority (non rare / exlusive side) of the market. Hell, judging by the average wealth of our lvl70 non-crafter FC members, even the 300-500k per crafted armor / weapon is a hefty sum... and thats good. They should be affordable, but should still sting the wallet of the average Joe.

As for the bots thats a whole 'nother can of worms, but I sympathize with the number of non-price gouging crafters they might demoralize.