Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
Great.. you have Max level crafters quickly.. for.. what?
So.. the price of the harvestable crafting mats becomes generally near Vendor sell prices (if you see someone selling items below vendor prices you should buy them and vendor them for a profit!). And all the crafters out there can now craft items for reasonable mat prices and charge for the HQrotation/time it takes alone.

I really am not on board with the idea that gathering classes are just made to rake in money for putting in time and cycling nodes.
Because some people enjoy crafting/gathering and playing the Market Board?

These are aspects of the FFXIV; FFXIV's market boards are supposed to be player-run economies.

There was a huge ruckus(still ongoing?) about Blue Mage being a limited job.

For me as a crafter/gatherer botters limit how I go about crafting/gathering and interact with the Market Board; for example, gathering niche items, which botters haven't figured out yet/not competing with bots on many items because it is futile,flipping bot listed items,etc.

Also, I already pointed out legitimate crafters/gatherers already switch to flipping when faced with bots. But it becomes harder to flip when bots drive down the price of a whole swathe of items.


RMT is not our problem, it's Squeenix's. It affects individual , rule abiding players very little.
I disagree, it affects server economies and by extension players because RMT generally inflates prices. Combined with bots driving down gil income for legitimate players. After a while, it becomes very difficult to afford certain items as a non-botter. I have seen this happen in other MMOs.

Driven out... to.. what? Not craft anymore because it's not profitable? Stop the goal of having a huge pile of gil.. for.. reasons?
Again, it has been pointed out in this thread multiple times, having gil can bypass tedious grinds. E.g. gearing up for raiding/iLvl requirements without having to go through the tomestone route. Gil is the currency of convenience and time.