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    Quote Originally Posted by Xianghua View Post
    How are you going to sleep them? With that black mage spell that is most likely level 50? Why do you need shadows when you can get to and from mobs to camp on choco without even losing stoneskin? Utsu will do nothing that can't already be done in game.
    With sleep songs? Sleep arrows? AoE Sleep songs? AoE Sleep arrows? Your third question has already been answered, but I'll say it again: Too many times I've seen some random single party member jump on a Choco, ride headlong to a distant group of mobs and only bring back 1-3. This after some time had passed as they tried in vain to trigger sight aggro, only to get their Choco maimed and make it back far too slowly. This given that you're fighting mobs that do aggro.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xoo View Post
    With sleep songs? Sleep arrows? AoE Sleep songs? AoE Sleep arrows? Your third question has already been answered, but I'll say it again: Too many times I've seen some random single party member jump on a Choco, ride headlong to a distant group of mobs and only bring back 1-3. This after some time had passed as they tried in vain to trigger sight aggro, only to get their Choco maimed and make it back far too slowly. This given that you're fighting mobs that do aggro.
    We have no sleep songs/arrows? People being Idiots and not knowing how to pull isn't a valid reason for needing ustu.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xianghua View Post
    We have no sleep songs/arrows? People being Idiots and not knowing how to pull isn't a valid reason for needing ustu.
    I must have missed it - where is the list of Bard actions and why isn't sleep in it!? What I'm saying is, is a Chocobo is not really designed to pull monsters. Mostly because it can be maimed and slowed, further adding to the time it has taken for the person that would be pulling (Gladiator) who is absolutely the last person I would choose to pull for me, as he is bound to the current mob.

    Stanislaw mentioned earlier that he loved meripo on BRD. You know why that is? Because he could pull non-stop and watch the EXP flow. It was mean, fast, and most of all controlled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xoo View Post
    I must have missed it - where is the list of Bard actions and why isn't sleep in it!? What I'm saying is, is a Chocobo is not really designed to pull monsters. Mostly because it can be maimed and slowed, further adding to the time it has taken for the person that would be pulling (Gladiator) who is absolutely the last person I would choose to pull for me, as he is bound to the current mob.

    Stanislaw mentioned earlier that he loved meripo on BRD. You know why that is? Because he could pull non-stop and watch the EXP flow. It was mean, fast, and most of all controlled.
    Yes i was brd on XI but it was a completely different style of leveling and battle. You don't need a choco to pull just like you don't need utsu to pull. It just makes it easier.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xianghua View Post
    We have no sleep songs/arrows? People being Idiots and not knowing how to pull isn't a valid reason for needing ustu.
    One thing to note if you have an puller then your party is alrdy failing cause staying together = more links and more exp having one person do solo pulling is just stupid anyway so this argument is pretty much moot.
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